Hey Doc,
I can't thank you enough for all your help your website has given me. I'm currently in DengFeng preparing for a training experience 3 months long. I brought some toilet paper for the journey too I'm getting so many different kinds of info from diff. people that it's quite confusing. Your website has helped me separate the wheat from the chaff.
Quick questions:
1. Is $25 US/day too much to get private lessons with Shi xxx.xxxx in the Shaolin Temple? I'm meeting with him tomorrow.
2. I've been quoted $1000 US for training at the Wushu Guan for 3 months. I think that's an ok deal. Whatchu think? I'm gonna speak to xxxx xxxxx for more info.
If you're in Henan, would love to meet you. You're a celebrity! We just won't go to any massage parlors together
I'll be here till May '03.
Take care,
xxxxx xxxxx
Just what I needed. An email from someone in Shaolin. Damn, and I was just telling Gene Ching yesterday that I was getting the itch to go back again. Already. (Just got home in December...., lol)
OK, a few things:
You brought toilet paper? I truly, am not impressed. Be a man like the rest of us and use one of those tiny pieces of soiled newspaper that you find on the floor. When you get to the point where you can hold it in your hands and read it first before you use it, then, you shall truly become one of the "greats". LOL.
$25 a day for training is pretty typical, and is not a bad price. I strongly suggest that you do not "sign up" for a prolonged period of time. Pay day by day. Or, a week at a time. Do not pay for the entire experience up front. You might find that you don't like training with Defang, or, whomever else you might end up with. You might find that you develop other options as time goes on. You also might find that you don't want to stay for three months. Keep your options open. And stay away from my doc honeys.
$1000 US for training at the wushu guan for three months is also not bad. That's about, oh, fifteen dollars a day? I'm assuming that does not include staying at the wushu guan hotel, world reknowned in the Shaolin world as a veritable shithole. If it does, it's a steal. But, the wushu guan hotel is not the nicest place to stay; the Feng Yuan, is much, much nicer. Problem is, the Feng Yuan is about 15 km away, which, at 30 yuan fare each way, and twenty minutes or so, it's going to wear you out. As you haven't made it clear to me where you're planning on staying, it's hard to give you advice. Also, since I don't know what you've budgeted for this trip, it's also hard to give you advice. Again, don't make any promises or payments for a long term stay. There is absolutely no guarantee that you're going to like this, like the area, or, survive, gastrointestinal wise. Pay as you go, don't pay everything up front. I'm good friends with the father of the guy who runs the wushu guan, though, I don't know the guy who runs the wushu guan himself. They need money, as they're currently reconstructing the hell out of the place (see my Journals in the forum archive). But, it's not my first option; I don't stay there no more. I stay at the Feng Yuan now, and train in the mountains with Shi De Cheng or Shi Xing Wei. If you're going to stay in the Feng Yuan, enjoy, say hi to manager Cui, and when you're at the Feng Yuan, stay the hell away from my doc honeys.
If you want to stay at the Feng Yuan (a doc recommendation), you can either travel to Shaolin back and forth each day, which is doable, or you can train at other schools, such as my master's school, the She De Cheng Wushu Guan, near the Mt Taishi, (look up, it’s the big mountain behind you), near the Confucian temple. Ask any tuk tuk driver for the Shi De Cheng (pronounced "chung") wushu guan. Or, find the Feng Yuan manager (manager Cui), tell him you're my friend (always, always bring a picture of the great bald one), and have him direct you to Decheng's place. At Dechengs place, point to my picture, if it isn't in the trash by now, and say "wo de peng yo". (Peng pronounced as "pung"). It means, "I'm his friend." I think. I've used it a lot, and it gets me absolutely nowhere. Maybe you'll have better luck. His current rate, including food, training, and clean housing, is $25 a day. You might be able to negotiate lower; other's have. And when you're at Decheng's school, stay the hell away from my doc honeys.
As for being a celebrity, thanks, but, hey, what goes up must come down. I'm either on the way down, or have hit bottom. It's nicer down here. In any case, I might, just might, in a frequent moment of doc insanity, get on a plane and head over. It all depends on what more shit the US government puts me through with respect to these visas. Shi De Cheng and Shi Xing Wei were planning on getting over here soon, but it all depends upon this security clearance nonsense that we're going through. You might, just might, see me in Henan one of these weeks. If you want to find me, keep an eye out for a rather large unattractive male with a shiny head, sometimes surrounded by a gaggle of giggling young Chinese women, usually on some creaky old imitation of a wooden bed in some underground filthy shithole. Don't be afraid to say hi to doc. He's mean looking, but really, kind of friendly. Sort of like an M&M. Hard and crusty on the outside, soft and squishy on the inside.
And if you really know what's good for you, stay the hell away from my doc honeys. They're the ones with the dumb glazed look in their eyes.
Have a great time
doc
I can't thank you enough for all your help your website has given me. I'm currently in DengFeng preparing for a training experience 3 months long. I brought some toilet paper for the journey too I'm getting so many different kinds of info from diff. people that it's quite confusing. Your website has helped me separate the wheat from the chaff.
Quick questions:
1. Is $25 US/day too much to get private lessons with Shi xxx.xxxx in the Shaolin Temple? I'm meeting with him tomorrow.
2. I've been quoted $1000 US for training at the Wushu Guan for 3 months. I think that's an ok deal. Whatchu think? I'm gonna speak to xxxx xxxxx for more info.
If you're in Henan, would love to meet you. You're a celebrity! We just won't go to any massage parlors together
I'll be here till May '03.
Take care,
xxxxx xxxxx
Just what I needed. An email from someone in Shaolin. Damn, and I was just telling Gene Ching yesterday that I was getting the itch to go back again. Already. (Just got home in December...., lol)
OK, a few things:
You brought toilet paper? I truly, am not impressed. Be a man like the rest of us and use one of those tiny pieces of soiled newspaper that you find on the floor. When you get to the point where you can hold it in your hands and read it first before you use it, then, you shall truly become one of the "greats". LOL.
$25 a day for training is pretty typical, and is not a bad price. I strongly suggest that you do not "sign up" for a prolonged period of time. Pay day by day. Or, a week at a time. Do not pay for the entire experience up front. You might find that you don't like training with Defang, or, whomever else you might end up with. You might find that you develop other options as time goes on. You also might find that you don't want to stay for three months. Keep your options open. And stay away from my doc honeys.
$1000 US for training at the wushu guan for three months is also not bad. That's about, oh, fifteen dollars a day? I'm assuming that does not include staying at the wushu guan hotel, world reknowned in the Shaolin world as a veritable shithole. If it does, it's a steal. But, the wushu guan hotel is not the nicest place to stay; the Feng Yuan, is much, much nicer. Problem is, the Feng Yuan is about 15 km away, which, at 30 yuan fare each way, and twenty minutes or so, it's going to wear you out. As you haven't made it clear to me where you're planning on staying, it's hard to give you advice. Also, since I don't know what you've budgeted for this trip, it's also hard to give you advice. Again, don't make any promises or payments for a long term stay. There is absolutely no guarantee that you're going to like this, like the area, or, survive, gastrointestinal wise. Pay as you go, don't pay everything up front. I'm good friends with the father of the guy who runs the wushu guan, though, I don't know the guy who runs the wushu guan himself. They need money, as they're currently reconstructing the hell out of the place (see my Journals in the forum archive). But, it's not my first option; I don't stay there no more. I stay at the Feng Yuan now, and train in the mountains with Shi De Cheng or Shi Xing Wei. If you're going to stay in the Feng Yuan, enjoy, say hi to manager Cui, and when you're at the Feng Yuan, stay the hell away from my doc honeys.
If you want to stay at the Feng Yuan (a doc recommendation), you can either travel to Shaolin back and forth each day, which is doable, or you can train at other schools, such as my master's school, the She De Cheng Wushu Guan, near the Mt Taishi, (look up, it’s the big mountain behind you), near the Confucian temple. Ask any tuk tuk driver for the Shi De Cheng (pronounced "chung") wushu guan. Or, find the Feng Yuan manager (manager Cui), tell him you're my friend (always, always bring a picture of the great bald one), and have him direct you to Decheng's place. At Dechengs place, point to my picture, if it isn't in the trash by now, and say "wo de peng yo". (Peng pronounced as "pung"). It means, "I'm his friend." I think. I've used it a lot, and it gets me absolutely nowhere. Maybe you'll have better luck. His current rate, including food, training, and clean housing, is $25 a day. You might be able to negotiate lower; other's have. And when you're at Decheng's school, stay the hell away from my doc honeys.
As for being a celebrity, thanks, but, hey, what goes up must come down. I'm either on the way down, or have hit bottom. It's nicer down here. In any case, I might, just might, in a frequent moment of doc insanity, get on a plane and head over. It all depends on what more shit the US government puts me through with respect to these visas. Shi De Cheng and Shi Xing Wei were planning on getting over here soon, but it all depends upon this security clearance nonsense that we're going through. You might, just might, see me in Henan one of these weeks. If you want to find me, keep an eye out for a rather large unattractive male with a shiny head, sometimes surrounded by a gaggle of giggling young Chinese women, usually on some creaky old imitation of a wooden bed in some underground filthy shithole. Don't be afraid to say hi to doc. He's mean looking, but really, kind of friendly. Sort of like an M&M. Hard and crusty on the outside, soft and squishy on the inside.
And if you really know what's good for you, stay the hell away from my doc honeys. They're the ones with the dumb glazed look in their eyes.
Have a great time
doc
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