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    wheelchairs, respirators, who needs 'em?

    and to think, doc, you say repairing a spine with stem cells would be a long shot.

    'I don't know how it works'
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,7369,1363339,00.html
    Dr Huang Hongyun cultivates the cells of aborted foetuses and injects them into the brains and spines of his patients. His method is controversial, but his results have led hundreds of westerners to his Beijing surgery. Jonathan Watts was given unprecedented access to the doctor and his patients.


    Among them is Van Golden, a Christian, anti-abortion Texan who has sold his house so that he can travel to communist, atheist China and have Huang inject a million cells from the nasal area of a foetus into his spine. According to Golden's doctors, his spine was damaged beyond repair in a car crash last Christmas. The damage to his nervous system was so bad that he has been in a wheelchair and racked by spasms ever since. But Golden refused to give up, even if it meant having to compromise his values. "This is the only place that offered us any hope," he says. "Everyone else offered only to help make me sufficient in that chair. But the chair is not my destiny. It is not ordained."
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    Wow, thats interesting... anti-abortion and pro stem cell.. if I read that whole thing right.
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      close, but it's nothing even as legitimate as stem cells. this guy's just taking fetus cells and shootin 'em on in to his patients' spines. scientific tests, operational standards, ethical issues of using human beings as guinea pigs? as obsolete as wheelchairs and respirators.

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        I found the article interesting. This is something that is just begging to be done here in the US, but, the anti abortion people would be shooting doctors in the streets if anyone ever started doing this. Sad, because there are tremendous possibilities with this stem cell stuff.

        But Huang's results are occuring far too quickly. And haphazardly. "Placebo effect" comes to mind. It will be interesting to see what comes of this long term.
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          and in the mean time, he's basically using human beings as guinea pigs. human beings who pay to be guinea pigs. at least when this kind of thing happens in the states we have some guidelines, or some reason for thinking that the particular therapy may work, other than "hell, let's just try it and see what happens".
          Last edited by zachsan; 12-03-2004, 02:04 PM.

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            Kind of scary when you ask me. I'd like to see a follow up.

            Speaking of placebo effect. The woman viagra didn't get passed by the FDA. From what I caught on TV they also said the placebo was very effective, as if we didn't know women were psychologically driven...lol
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