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    There's some information about wushu vs gong fu in the Shaolin FAQ on the site, if I remember correctly. Also you might want to look in the archive in the appropriate sections.
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  • daodejing
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    Then again, traditionally, there was always a dichotomy of sorts between people who trained gongfu for religious purposes and those who trained it for battlefield purposes. But the beautiful thing, is that this, like all other dualities, is completely a figment of an observer's imagination.

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  • daodejing
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    If you really want to get downright academic...............

    Try examining and juxtaposing the relationship of martial arts as a sport in America vs. the idea of martial arts as meditation or for that matter, art. Theres a lot of people who have lost the spirit of it all in the translation of things into the western world, and it would make for an interesting concusion. Contemporary wushu is evolving into a primarily competition based athletic activity, especially in this country. Traditional gongfu, particularly shaolin and wudan, has nothing to do with competition and everything to do with active meditation to balance out the still meditation also practiced by monks.

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  • daodejing
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    Eh, you're all pretty much right.

    Gongfu or Kungfu, simply means "long term work or effort" in mandarin.

    However, whoever brought it up is also correct that in Mandarin, gongfu can be used as a noun, adjective, or whatever. In fact this is true of almost every word in Mandarin. A characture becomes noun verb or adjective at the whim of the speaker. For example the first line of the first poem of the dao de jing litterally reads "The Dao which can be Dao'd is not the eternal Dao."

    Theres a small amount of good wushu videos on Kazzaa, if you have that program I'd be happy to share some of my files with you.

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  • shaolinstylee
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    You could always show the contrast of traditional vs. wushu by showing a chang chuan routine and a traditional Northern form. Hung gar and Nan chuan, weapon and weapon etc.

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    thanks a lot!

    thank you very much guys!

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  • doc
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    There's some information about wushu vs gong fu in the Shaolin FAQ on the site, if I remember correctly. Also you might want to look in the archive in the appropriate sections. This topic has been extensively discussed in the past.

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  • shaolinstylee
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    It is interesting the translations you get from chinese to any roman language. The chingrish is classic. I have to say though, it comes down to interpretation sometimes of what a phrase says, and what it means, and who ever is translating it can definitely put a spin on things in that regard.

    If you need more resources for video clips look at these for traditional chinese martial arts:
    http://www.rochesterkungfu.com/videos.shtml
    http://www.emptyflower.com/cgi-bin/y...cgi?board=vids
    (have you guys seen these yet?)
    plus a few that I'll post once I find them again. that emtyflower has a lot of good stuff around for traditional.

    Here for wushu:
    actually, just realized that dez....err dave posted all my wushu stashes already...lol.

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  • doc
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    So the expression you have Kung Fu would be grammatically correct
    Glad someone mentioned this. The term gong fu is used, from what I can tell in China, both as a noun (describing the practice of that martial art), and as a descriptor (he has gong fu, ie, he is skilled..l.) The latter seems to be more prevalent in China, and much less so in the US. I've also heard it described as meaning "work hard", which goes along with the whole "work hard and get skilled", ie, "to have gong fu".

    We really need to start working on this language some more.

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