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  • High Level Kung Fu Men are Vampires

    Did I get your attention?

    Ya. High level kung fu men are vampires. They don't suck blood of course. They suck the energy out of people.

    The idea of vampires sucking blood was created in order to provide something physical that people could see and feel. Everyone knows what blood is. They know it is precious and life giving. If they were warned that a vampire was sucking their blood, they would instinctively protect themselves.

    If people were instructed that someone was sucking their energy, they would not understand or they would disbelieve because energy is invisible. They cannot see or feel energy like they can blood, so the warning would not do any good. People would disbelieve they had energy, so they would never protect themselves from energy sucking vampires.
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    Why is it justified to claim that High Level Kung Fu Men are Energy Sucking Vampires?

    Because of the nature of human life and human power.

    All human beings have energy. It does not matter whether you believe it or not. If you don't believe you have hair, that is too bad, there is still hair on your body somewhere. You can disbelieve that human beings have energy as much as you want, but people do have energy.

    This energy can be emitted, received and sensed. A human being can locate another human being by feeling their energy. A human being can heal another human being by emitting healing energy to this. A person who is sick can become better by absorbing the healing energy.

    Which brings us to vampires and high level kung fu men.

    It is also possible to suck the energy out of another person. Just like it sounds, this is a very bad thing. You need and want all of your energy. It is what makes you powerful and gives you the ability to defend yourself. Sucking your energy is just like taking the air out of car tires. You can still move and do things, but it is very very hard.
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    How exactly does this energy sucking work?

    Human beings are divided into external and internal halves according to Chinese Medicine. Men are naturally external while women are naturally internal. External power is associated with hardness or tension, while internal power is associated with softness.

    All human beings are naturally divided into external and internal sections. A man, even though he is dominant externally, does have internal parts. A woman, even though she is dominant internally, does have external parts of her body.

    One of the "laws" of external and internal energy is that internal energy drains external energy. This is a very common sense idea if you consider it. What is external? The man. What is internal? The woman. What does the woman do to the man?

    She sucks the energy out of his penis right? Literally with her mouth, or in a similar way with the vaginal orifice or anal orifice. If you are a thinking person, you should immediately make a connection here.

    Women suck the energy out of men, and Vampires suck the energy out of men. Woman are dominant internally, so Vampires must be dominant internally.

    What is usually described as the pinnacle of Kung Fu achievement for a man? When a man takes an internal style like Ba Gua or Tai Chi. When the man moves away from the external styles and begins the internal styles, then he is said to be a better kung fu man.

    So a high level kung fu man is like a woman because high level kung fu is internal. A woman is like a vampire because they both suck energy. Therefore, a high level kung fu man is like a vampire. Which means high level kung fu men must also suck energy like the woman or like the vampire.
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    Exactly Exactly how does this work?

    As described above, human beings have energy. Energy can travel across distances. The energy of a human being can travel to another human being and induce a change in the other human being. What does that mean "induce"?

    For example. Let's say the man is very tense from a hard day at work. He comes home and his body is hard all over. Because human beings have energy, and energy crosses distances, and other human beings can pick up energy, the woman picks up the man's tension. The man "induces" a state of tension in the body of the woman.

    This is uncomfortable for the woman. It is uncomfortable for anyone. What does the woman do? The woman changes the tension into softness so she regains her healthy state.

    What about the man? What happens when the woman dissolves the tension he has induced into her body?

    The man tries again to induce tension in her body. He is not doing it consciously. It is just happening as a natural part of two human beings in close proximity. The man will continue to transmit his tension to the woman. The woman will continue to dissolve the tense energy. What is the end result?

    The man gets tired won't he? The man is emitting tension that the woman is absorbing. The woman sits there and absorbs the man's tension until all of it is gone. What does the man feel like then? He is soft now. He has no more tension.

    Describing the process the way it has been described, the man is putting his energy on the woman, and the woman is dissolving it to keep herself healthy and soft. But. This process does not always work only when the man is putting tension on the woman.

    A man always has a normal amount of tension. The woman, if she chooses, can dissolve this tension. What happens to the man? He feels sick. He is supposed to have a certain amount of tension in his body to be healthy. If the women takes it, that tension is gone, so he is unhealthy. What happens next?

    The man must generate more tension right? He must regain that minimum state of tension that keeps his body healthy. Where does that tension come from? That tension comes from inside of him. He must use his energy to create the healthy tension in his body. He is generating and putting out energy.

    What if the woman just keeps dissolving it? What if every single drop of energy the man generates to make is body tense is dissolved by the woman? She is "sucking" his energy right? He generates energy, and then it disappears. He no longer has it because the woman dissolved it.
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    Now. Change the above scenario into a fight between two men. One man is very tense and want to put this tension on his opponent by physically transferring it to the other man with his feet and fists. What does the high level kung fu man do?

    He does the exact same thing the woman does. He sucks the tension out of the man so the man has no energy to swing his feet or fists. The internal kung fu man is a "vampire" draining the tension and/or energy out of his opponent.
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    The ugly part of this is that once the high level man reaches the point where he can dissolve energy, he becomes addicted. The dissolving process is like a drug which is where the vampire legends come in.

    A high level kung fu man will always need to dissolve tension. If he is not doing it in a fighting situation, he will simply drain it out of the men around him. He is a vampire sucking the energy that he needs out of the human beings around him.

    We can say he is malicious because his actions cause harm to his victims. His victims becomes tired and unhealthy. Or we could be understanding and say he cannot help himself. He needs tense energy to live, so taking it is what he has to do. We could also justify the vampires actions because if a person is too tense, they get sick also. A person who was too tense would want a vampire to suck the tension out of them so they felt better.

    Which brings us to Evil Vampires
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    There are high level kung fu men who know exactly what they are and exactly why they behave the way they do and what their needs are. They know they need a diet of tense energy to stay healthy and become stronger.

    Evil vampires will literally set up a farm of human beings to milk for energy.

    An Evil kung fu man can train his students wrong so that they generate tense energy. The Evil kung fu man then drains this tension out of the students. The students are cows that the Evil Kung Fu man milks every day.

    I knew one of these men. It is a very ugly thing to know once you see it for what it is. I literally saw this man drain energy out of his students who had no idea what he was doing. They thought he was the greatest man in the world. But to the man, they were just cows.

    I wonder if cows think farmers are the greatest thing in the world when the farmer brings hay?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Happeh
    I wonder if cows think farmers are the greatest thing in the world when the farmer brings hay?
    I go to sleep wondering that very thing also.

    Personally, I think they'd be happy.

    I'll research this further. Do water buffalo count?
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    • #3
      I can't believe I'm about to say this, but,,,, that's good stuff Happeh !

      You really presented the "vamp" thing in a much more realistic light. Much more believable than someone walking around with big fangs saying, "Blah, I've come to suck you qi, Blah"...

      Good stuff.

      And I definitely agree that a High level Internal Martial Artist "could" do that. However, I have my doubt's if anyone in the world is really up to that level now-a-days....
      "Winners turn to losers, losers are forgotten..." - A Tribe Called Quest

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      • #4
        baiwanxi, youre joking right?
        "Life is a run. In attack we run, in defense we run. When you can no longer run, time to die" - Shichiroji "Seven samurai"

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        • #5
          Damnit my secret is out!!!
          The essential point in science it not a complicated mathematical formalism or a ritualized experimentation. Rather the heart of science is a kind of shrewd honesty the springs from really wanting to know what the hell is going on!

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          • #6
            Nah, I'm not joking... C 'mon, give the crazy bastard some credit. He laid it out pretty well ! Not like so many on this site that just say some shit but don't back it up with a good explanation.
            I mean, even if you don't agree with what he said he still presented it well. THat counts for something.
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            • #7
              Have any of you guys read the post? Here's what the logic seems to me like.

              Larry read the news today.

              Read rhymes with red, which is a color (adjective) and not a verb. On the grounds of his adjectiving rather than verbing a proper noun, Larry's existence contradicts the fabric of time, space and proper English grammar.

              Larry thus deserves to be executed. But due to a similar loophole Larry wil not actually be murdered legally, it simply means that he will be an operation executed on a small island-dwelling population off the coast of Spain.

              Oh, by the way here are some dogmatically true facts:

              All men have hair.

              All men have energy.

              Hair and energy are both tangible things that you can point to.

              Water buffalo have a LOT of hair.

              Wong Kiew Kit is thus full of shit.




              Hey, at least the post isnt just arbitrarily presenting opinions as facts. That would be something TOTALLY unfamiliar to the Russbo crew, considering their experience with BTL and all.

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              • #8
                I became a vampire after coming in contact with one- i differ a little from the others, i only suck the women!

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                • #9
                  Dog, I agree.

                  And Happeh, I'm not trying to "knock" u. I just wish, since you're providing these "theories" to us - representing them as truth - you'd first make an effort to condense your thoughts a bit more. The questions, similies and parralels, in my opinion, are a tad superfluous. If you cut the material down, it'll reduce the loquaciousness of your writing and make it easier for us to consider your points more thoroughly. Maybe you can write a quick thesis, give a few examples, provide some "proof," a conclusion, etc.. or would that, somehow, run counter to your "teaching style?"

                  I understand your point is "High level kung fu men are vampires?' But, unfortunately, your observations fall short. They lack everything other than a flowery explanation and your personal subjective assurance.

                  -- high level kung fu men are vampires?'
                  -- an "idea" was created in order to provide something "physical" that people can see and feel, called vamparism?
                  -- vampires do not suck blood, they suck energy?
                  -- vampires suck energy and thus need people to feed on?
                  -- women are vampires?
                  -- an evil gongfu man is the same as an evil vampire?
                  -- or, perhaps, farmers are vampires?

                  We can continue in this vein forever. What have you proven? Conjecture is easy.

                  So, for me, even if you are able to express yourself with convincing embellishments that are abstract and appear shrewd to some, it doesn't make the connections you've made any more bona fide, legitament, matter-of-fact, or, even intelligent.

                  Creative?

                  Sure, but that's the nature of speculation....is it not?
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                  • #10
                    I was told this in the strictest confidence and told never to repeat it... but now I feel that I have to:

                    High Level Kung Fu Men Are Actually Unicorns.

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                    • #11
                      Energy sucking (orally) women. There is a God.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        Dog, I agree.

                        And Happeh, I'm not trying to "knock" u. I just wish, since you're providing these "theories" to us - representing them as truth - you'd first make an effort to condense your thoughts a bit more.
                        No. That is part of the process. You want facts laid out in a linear style. If I wrote like that, your brain would be forced to think in a specific way. Thinking that way precludes you from understanding what I am saying.

                        Did you know that I or anybody else can change your brain just by talking to you? We talk in a linear factual way, and your brain is forced onto one path. Or we talk in a long winded never get to the point way, and your brain is forced to take an entirely different path.

                        It is that new path I am building for you by talking to you like this. If you force yourself to read what I right and try to understand it, new pathways will open in your brain. I cannot tell you what will happen. It may be good or it may be bad. But your brain will be more open, "bigger" that it was before.

                        Oh Yeah. I am also teaching you patience. A person must have patience to read though my large posts. If you have no patience, you will give up. It will bother you.

                        That physical reaction is also something that, if you paid attention, is a mesage to you. If you do not have the patience to read through 5 minutes of written material, why not? Do you think it is normal for a person to become frustrated after 5 minutes of reading?

                        When I was in school, I would have to read for hours at a time. If I wanted a good grade, I had too. If I told my instructor, "could you take this 500 page reading assignment and condense it down into one page for me because I am lazy and do not want to do the reading", what do you think would happen? I would receive an F for the assignment, and my instructor would write down in his little book "Not suitable for college. Does not possess the patience or focus to read long tracts of written material".

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        The questions, similies and parralels, in my opinion, are a tad superfluous. If you cut the material down, it'll reduce the loquaciousness of your writing and make it easier for us to consider your points more thoroughly. Maybe you can write a quick thesis, give a few examples, provide some "proof," a conclusion, etc.. or would that, somehow, run counter to your "teaching style?"
                        I will answer any questions, but I will not change my style. Those similies and parallels are some of the things that force your brain down that new path I was telling you about above.

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        I understand your point is "High level kung fu men are vampires?' But, unfortunately, your observations fall short. They lack everything other than a flowery explanation and your personal subjective assurance.
                        My observations do not fall short. Your thinking falls short. You are one of those people that is going to want me to do your thinking for you. You want me to write down every single possibility for you, the reasons why they are true or false, then present you with the finished product.

                        Then when I did that, you would complain about how I write too much. If you thought about what I said, then you would have a response instead of just these god like pronouncements "your observations fall short".

                        WHY do the observations fall short? This is not brainwashing class where the person who talks the loudest or most authoritatively wins. This is science class where the facts win.

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- high level kung fu men are vampires?'
                        Does water "suck" the energy out of fire?

                        Do lithium rods "suck" the energy out of a nuclear reaction?

                        Does Yin "suck" the energy out of Yang?

                        If a high level kung fu man practices internal martial arts, and he changes himself to become Yin dominant, would he not "suck" the energy out of External martial artists who are "Yang"?

                        If not, could you please explain why? Every kung fu book I ever read said that Yin absorbs Yang. Absorb is another word for suck. Therefore Yin sucks Yang.

                        If high level kung fu men do indeed suck the energy out of other people, then comparing them to vampires is a valid comparison. The main characteristic of a vampire is that it sucks something out of it's victims.

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- an "idea" was created in order to provide something "physical" that people can see and feel, called vamparism?
                        An "idea" was created to explain sunlight. People see sunlight everyday. They call it sunlight. Is that a scientific explanation? No. But the explanation is perfectly fine for people with lives to live.

                        But some scientists somewhere came up with the ideas about Fusion and Fission reactions to explain that the Sun is constantly creating energy and radiating part of it in the visible electromagnetic spectrum.

                        Why don't you go give your doubts to the people telling you about the sun and fission and fusion? Because they wear a suit? Because they work for a corporation? Because you have been trained like a dog to believe everything you read in a newspaper without questioning it?

                        Why do you doubt me, when you accept so much else in this world on nothing but faith? Can you prove to me how a microwave works? Can you explain microwaves and tell me the engineering necessary to create a working microwave oven? I doubt it. But I would bet money you believe that that box in your kitchen works on something called microwaves.

                        Why? Why don't you doubt microwaves?

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- vampires do not suck blood, they suck energy?
                        Have you ever tasted blood? I don't know about anyone else, but I literally become naseous at the taste of blood. I don't know how anyone could drink quarts or gallons of it. That is real common sense talking.

                        If a vampire is not sucking the blood out of people, what is he sucking out of them? It has to be something that won't kill them. It has to be something they replenish all the time. A vampire is not going to suck urine I don't think. Urine is replenished every day. A vampire is not going to suck feces, although feces are replenished every day.

                        What is it that a vampire could possibly be sucking? We know that whatever it is, the vampire feels good from it. The vampire feels strong from it. The vampire feels energetic from it.

                        Doesn't energy make things strong? A sports man with lots of energy is a strong man. So why wouldn't vampire's want to suck the strong energy out of a sports man?

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- vampires suck energy and thus need people to feed on?
                        This is an easy one. If you want Taco Bell, do tacos drop out of the sky? No. You have to go to Taco Bell. If you want energy, energy does not fall out of the sky. You need to find people or animals to suck the energy out of.

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- women are vampires?
                        This is definition. If Yin absorbs or sucks Yang, and a women is Yin and a man is Yang, then by definition, a woman sucks or absorbs a man. It is the same situation as above with the comparison between vampires and high level kung fu men. If a women sucks the energy out of a man, then comparing a woman to a vampire is valid because vampires are defined as sucking something out of other people

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        -- an evil gongfu man is the same as an evil vampire?
                        -- or, perhaps, farmers are vampires?
                        Now you are being goofy. If I steal your money, am I evil? If I steal your woman, am I evil? If I steal your energy, am I evil?

                        Maybe you are one of those victim people that tells themselves it is OK everytime someone takes something from you? So you would never call those things evil. "Oh", you would say, "That is just a vampire being a vampire, sucking the life out of me. He is not evil".

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        We can continue in this vein forever. What have you proven? Conjecture is easy.
                        Yes we can. You can continue to refuse to think and converse, while trying to reduce what I say to one sentence.

                        What have I proven? I haven't "proved" anything. I made an initial post stating my opinion, and I waited for a response. I don't really understand your question, and I doubt you do either. You are one of those people that think proof is a link on the internet. Proof is in your head. No one ever proves anything. A person convinces themselves.

                        If you are weak, you convince yourself someone is right just because they say they are right. If you are strong, you convince yourself someone is right after you thought about what it was they had to say. But in the end, it is you proving things to yourself.

                        What is wrong with conjecture? How else does a person try to figure out the universe besides conjecture, posing possiblities, and then weeding out the ones the work and the ones that do not work? You say conjecture like it means poop or something. Conjecture is a legitimate tool in the pursuit of the answers to intellectual questions.

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        So, for me, even if you are able to express yourself with convincing embellishments that are abstract and appear shrewd to some, it doesn't make the connections you've made any more bona fide, legitament, matter-of-fact, or, even intelligent.
                        Do you have any real questions or any real rebuttals? Or just doubt, and a listing of what you think my main points are?

                        Originally posted by onesp1ng
                        Creative?

                        Sure, but that's the nature of speculation....is it not?
                        Boring!

                        You will find life is much more fun if you play. If you played along with me, trying to poke holes in what I say, not with doubt, but with a thought out reason why there is a hole in what I say, this would be a game like ping pong or tennis. We will go back and forth until one of us convinces the other, or one of us gives up.

                        Then we will laugh and talk about what a good time we had.
                        Last edited by Happeh; 06-09-2007, 11:32 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Happeh, i know of a religion you would fit into perfectly.

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                          • #14
                            I felt the urge to stop by and state one of the motivations for this post.

                            If you go out and begin to tell people about chi or energy.....that human beings have energy, and that it is possible for someone to take it away from them, the very first words out of their mouths will almost always be

                            "Vampires"

                            By starting this thread, and trying to explain how the legend of Vampires would work according to the principles of kung fu, I wanted to make the idea of Vampires seem mundane.

                            When people start talking about people taking their energy and vampires, they always get scared. They blow things out of proportion and run around hysterically. It is hard to make them stop running and get them to be rational.

                            By starting off the conversation by saying "high level kung fu men are vampires", I hoped that it would seem like some natural kind of everyday thing. There are lots of high level kung fu men all over the world. Nobody runs around in fear talking about them. It is just a regular kind of thing that high level kung fu men are powerful and can do things normal people cannot.

                            I wanted to make it seem like vampirism is just another ability that a high level kung fu man has. Energy sucking is not something to get scared about and run around losing your mind over.

                            Energy sucking is something you should respect and prepare yourself for like an upper cut or a roundhouse kick.

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                            • #15
                              I suck chocolate milk out of cups.

                              it never gets any easier

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