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  • SYX Journal: December 2004

    The following was sent to me by email. The sender wishes to remain anonymous, and will be posting on his/her own under the name of SYX:





    Information about Shi Xing Du, another fake Shaolin monk



    There is information about a Shaolin monk Shi Xingdu who was recently disowned by his master Shi De Jian. We have reason to believe that Xing Du came to England to teach Gongfu without telling his master De Jian and the Shaolin Temple. While Xing Du was in the UK he was involved in sexual activity with some of his female students. He was also caught on porn websites and has broken the basic rules of a Buddhist monk.



    For many reasons like these Master Shi De Jian has finished his relationship with Xing Du. Master Shi De Jian is well respected as a Buddhist monk and is regarded as a person who represents the spirit of Shaolin Gongfu. Master De Jian usually lives in San Huangzhai, and was not aware of Xing Du’s bad behavior and lies. Therefore Master De Jian feels sorry for having a disciple like this and wishes people would no be cheated by Xing Du.



    Actually there are many fake monks like this still living at Shaolin Temple. Most of them have no understanding about Shaolin Gongfu, many of them have wives and children and still claim to be real Buddhist monks of Shaolin Temple. Many westerners should also be aware of this situation as people are always being cheated by these fake monks.



    FROM A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN CHEATED BY XING DU.



    AMITOFO

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  • #2
    shi heng jun shaolin fake

    SHI HENG JUN, ONE MORE FAKE SHAOLIN MONK

    From many fake Shaolin momks, Shi heng jun was feartured on a Shaolin documentry called the Myths and logics of Shaolin Gongfu. Shi Heng Jun's real name is Dong Ping, he is not a Shaolin monk and never lived or trained in Shaolin Gongfu at Shaolin Temple. Shi Heng Jun is a business man and only care about how much profite he will make off students.

    before 1994 he was a coach of a school beside Shaolin Temple and the boss of this school was Sheng Zhong Lin. after Sheng Zhong lin died shi heng jun opened his own school near shaolin temple aswell, most people know this school as the shaolin secular disciples union. shi heng jun knows nothing about real shaolin gongfu and only knows the modern school type wushu. In 1999, another business man called heiming came to shaolin from hongkong, he realized that gongfu was getting more and more popular in western country, and he thaught this was an oppotunity to make good money, so after he was looking for different people he found Dong Ping as his business partner. then heiming help him to boasts about how amaizing his gongfu is, and they lied to many people that he is buddhist monk from shaolin temple.

    I was living near shaolin temple for a long time, and I have spoken to many local people and the monks of Shaolin temple, when I have spoken about those fake shaolin monks, they told me that Dong Ping is one them, and they told me about his story. If anybody doubts about what i am saying, they can go to shaolin and ask anyone living around the shaolin area, including the real monks of shaolin temple, you can even ask the old abbot of shaolin temple Shi Su Xi . and they will all tell you he is fake.

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    • #3
      SHI HENG JUN, ONE MORE FAKE SHAOLIN MONK

      From many fake Shaolin momks, Shi heng jun was feartured on a Shaolin documentry called the Myths and logics of Shaolin Gongfu. Shi Heng Jun's real name is Dong Ping, he is not a Shaolin monk and never lived or trained in Shaolin Gongfu at Shaolin Temple. Shi Heng Jun is a business man and only care about how much profite he will make off students.

      before 1994 he was a coach of a school beside Shaolin Temple and the boss of this school was Sheng Zhong Lin. after Sheng Zhong lin died shi heng jun opened his own school near shaolin temple aswell, most people know this school as the shaolin secular disciples union. shi heng jun knows nothing about real shaolin gongfu and only knows the modern school type wushu. In 1999, another business man called heiming came to shaolin from hongkong, he realized that gongfu was getting more and more popular in western country, and he thaught this was an oppotunity to make good money, so after he was looking for different people he found Dong Ping as his business partner. then heiming help him to boasts about how amaizing his gongfu is, and they lied to many people that he is buddhist monk from shaolin temple.

      I was living near shaolin temple for a long time, and I have spoken to many local people and the monks of Shaolin temple, when I have spoken about those fake shaolin monks, they told me that Dong Ping is one them, and they told me about his story. If anybody doubts about what i am saying, they can go to shaolin and ask anyone living around the shaolin area, including the real monks of shaolin temple, you can even ask the old abbot of shaolin temple Shi Su Xi . and they will all tell you he is fake.

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      • #4
        fakes

        MORE FAKE MONKS DISCOVERD

        As so many fake Shaolin Monks I have wrote about, here is one that will amuse you the most. Actually, I don’t really know his name, but I know about him and I met him many times in Dengfeng, anyway, you can find his face on these addresses, http://www.shaolins.com/stumesg7.htm and www.aboutshaolin.com (go to the section about shaolin schools). After you have seen it, you must be wondering in the same way as I first did. Now I will tell you more about him.

        From what I know he goes by two names the first is Shi Xing Ming and the other is Shi Yong Peng, Xing Ming or what ever his real name is, I'm sure that he was never a Shaolin Buddhist monk. He was taught Gongfu by his uncle Shi De Qain who is quite famous and is not a monk either. Xing Ming has married an American lady and her photo can also be seen on www.aboutshaolin.com, she is dressed in the cream robe. she teaches Buddhism at his school near Dengfeng. Now let's talk about his uncle.

        Shi De Qian also claims to be a monk from Shaolin Temple. His real name is Wang Chang Qing, He is quite famous in Dengfeng after writing some books about Shaolin Gongfu. He spoke to some old masters and local people who knew gongfu and has copied information from some old gongfu books, then wrote some books about Gongfu. So he made his name in this way. Also he has posters to teach advanced internal Gongfu like Yi Jin Jing and other skills. From my own point of view how can one really learn off a poster or vcds.

        If anybody doubts about what i am saying, they can go to shaolin and ask anyone living around the shaolin area, including the real monks of shaolin temple, you can even ask the old abbot of shaolin temple Shi Su Xi . and they will all tell you they are fake.

        IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT ME MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS gongfustyle@yahoo.com
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        Last edited by syx; 12-22-2004, 07:33 AM. Reason: misatke

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        • #5
          Originally posted by syx
          If anybody doubts about what i am saying...you can even ask the old abbot of shaolin temple Shi Su Xi . and they will all tell you they are fake.

          Wow, you really think someone like Shi su Xi, who's like a 5 billion years old buddhist monk and is suffering the degenrating effects of age has nothing better to do than play this dick-measuring contest with fake teachers?

          Anyway, so let me ask you: what are you planning on doing about this? I mean, other than send it by e-mail to someone who will anonymously post your e-mail? Are there any plans to confront the teacher? perhaps you have already done something?

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          • #6
            What is a "real" monk to you, can you please define it as you see it.
            practice wu de

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            • #7
              LOLO Here we go again.

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              • #8
                Shaolinstylee has a good point. Just because its repeated dosent mean its not important.

                An exclusively kung-fu monk is a fake "monk" as well. "Monk", in its broad context which includes Shaolin, is a person who devotes himself to the practice of his religion. Buddhism-wise this means detatchment from materialistic things (which most of these guys have fallen short), not being greedy and ambitious (where many of these guys have fallen short), to remain celibate (where many of these guys have fallen short), and many other things. "Monk" is a relative term these days, if not augmented beyond recognition.

                The term "athlete" is probably better-suited to describe what most of these so-called monks are.

                Bring it; i'll argue this one till i grow a beard.

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                • #9
                  Technically, a monk is someone who lives in a monastery, and follows the rules of a certain religion or following.

                  That, brings you to the definition of a monastery...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dogchow108

                    Bring it; i'll argue this one till i grow a beard.
                    So are you going to stop shaving now or until he replies?
                    Becoming what I've dreamed about.

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                    • #11
                      CANADIAN FAKE xxxxxx xxxxx (edited by doc)

                      As of the many fake shaolin monks that I have talked about previously. Now we have a Canadian claiming to be a shaolin disciple. His name is xxxxx xxxxxx. In august 2004, he came to train modern wushu in a school around shaolin area. He knows nothing about traditional kungfu and now he teaches shaolin wushu in Canada, xxxxxx. He uses and abuses the name of shaolin for profit and to make his name known to people. I have evidence to prove that this fake xxxxxxx has no right to use the shaolin name in any way or form, what so ever.

                      I will tell you about how serious he is: He has a multistyle martial arts school and he is a supposed master of the following styles: karate, taichi, ninjitsu, boxing from Burma, self defense, kickboxing, taekwando,...., and finaly he teaches his wellknown SHAOLIN MY JONG LA HORN that nobody knows, he also has a copyright of this style that was created a few years ago. And finaly he teaches his shaolin wushu, After training with the non monk Shi Xing Hong for 2 weeks and training in China for only one month. He must be indeed someone very incredible. He has learned WUBU QUAN from another fake monk Shi Yan Ming ( who has a wife and children in China and now he has another wife and 2 children in New York). And now Yan Ming is also one of xxxxx masters (what an incredible background for this fake xxxxx).

                      Now let s talk about how xxxxx teaches. He does not really know how to teach shaolin. Sometimes you may see him teaching from a book, he is not able to perform his own wushu. So how can someone like this have the ability to teach in the first place.

                      Anyone who would like to visit or send comments to this fake xxxxxx may check his webside, which is: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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                      • #12
                        SHAOLIN MY JONG LA HORN that nobody knows
                        Um, that is a semi popular style (maybe not a popular spelling). Sounds like a McKwoon... but whatever.
                        practice wu de

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                        • #13
                          So, first off I get to shave.


                          Also, he brought up the Yan Ming controversy. and Xing Hong is not a monk?

                          SYX- please tell me who you think is a monk and who is not.


                          Is Shi De Cheng a monk? Is Shi Xing Wei a monk? Is Shi De Shan a monk?

                          I'm waiting for an answer, i'm really curious what you think, man.

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                          • #14
                            I doubt Yan Ming has anything to do with Frederick. I never heard of him...but it wouldn't be the first time someone came and trained for a little while then went off and started 'teaching' and listing credit to SYM. We get calls on the regular about these two other guys. I know it pisses SYM off to hear about it. So I'll look into this guy. I can count on my one hand the people he has authorized to teach and none of them are named Frederick.

                            In the grist mill of Shaolin rumor, Xing Hong is sometimes referred to as only a disicple. Sometimes also an ego nazi. I don't know about all that but I disagree with his idea of a standardized curriculum, belt system, etc. I know when the monks came to visit while on some tour he was the only one who did not remove his shoes when he came to the USAST, which went noted by several people.

                            Before anyone gets their panties in a twist nobody knows who this guy is.

                            For myself, I'm pretty satisfied as to who is 'real' and who is 'fake.'
                            "Arhat, I am your father..."
                            -the Dark Lord Cod

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                            • #15
                              well his website is all in French.

                              I don't recognize him. I'm not at every class but if he had authority to teach from Yan Ming I would know. Plus, no ninjas that I can remember have ever trained with us. I think that would stand out. I mean, the first smoke bomb that went off, he would instantly give away his ninjitsu. And you know as well as I that hot blondes and wailing guitar solos would have busted out as soon as he cut off one of our heads...so far none of that rings a bell with me.

                              If anyone can show me where he claims that his 'master' is Shi Yan Ming, please let me know and trust me Yan Ming will shut this guy down in two shakes of a fake lamb's tail.

                              I believe the operative word about SYM's wife is "had." Because she is an ex-wife.

                              There's another old rumor I'd like to put to rest and that is that she is "abandoned."

                              She's a handy tool for SYX, that is for sure.

                              Japanese Buddhist monks all have families. Chinese Buddhism is known, amongst some other families of Buddhists, to have well overcompensated- like the meat stuff. Anyway, I think you can trace the family monks to Shi Su Yun, and a few visiting Japanese monks. I forget the Japanese monk's names, but they spent a couple years at Shaolin, then went to the Japanese Shorinji temple.

                              If memory serves me correct, Su Yun was in the temple by 1921, left during the CR, and came back with 5 kids and a wife. He was a monk.

                              He taught alot of the newer crop of monks. So ask yourself, if your master came back to Shaolin, ate meat and had kids, woudln't that start to get you thinking, hey, if he can do it, and look at how he is doing it, why can't I. Wouldn't it make you realize that celibacy is sort of weird? I mean, weird like people from Holland weird?
                              "Arhat, I am your father..."
                              -the Dark Lord Cod

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