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    Do we or don't w ????

    Just noticed recently that a few folks around here are seeming a little less than usual selves and ( besides possibley reconsidering a falun rehash myself , unless ..... I don't ) am just wondering how many of us here are actually meditating?
    For those that do, how often are we doing this and on what???
    Personally I do myself daily on emptyness and universe jazz just to not think for a bit and allow myself to go quiet inside and hear what's not meant to be there but I figured that the thread 'd be an intersting look regardless so cheers and feel free to share.

    Btl
    "honestly girls dont seem to want anything other then whatever they want "atm" then that can always change:"
    maestro's love genius.

    first we work to live, then we live to work, ..& then when someone else can do it good enough without us - we can all run off and die.
    Blooming tianshi lotus

    "find something & thatd turn me on.." drahillionaire, warren buffet.

    'if you keep going, eventually you get there' chuck norris

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    I used to meditate everyday, but now I don't. I don't fell the passion anymore, because I eliminated it. Owned.
    Becoming what I've dreamed about.

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    i don't and never have meditated much. the honest truth is, most people whom i've known throughout life who were heavily into meditation were anything but relaxed, focused or "centered". it seems to me that the wackier claims about meditation have a way of attracting a very unconventional crowd, to put it nicely. and no, i'm not just talking about beginners.

    not to be mean but, case in point.

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    I rather just take a nap.

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    To achieve something real through meditation you have to be fully dedicated to it.It's not enough to seat on the floor in lotus position.Some spent 40 years meditating full time and never found what they wanted:Why?They were looking for an answer but there is no question,it's all about killing desires of any nature.
    There are many ways for meditating,through all religions and cultures it has been researched.Most of us even DO meditate without knowing it,and it's nothing but an obligation,because there is nothing to get from it,or if you hope to get anything(litteraly)you are on the wrong path.
    Also having acces to your subconscious may be dangerous without a proper guide and you may think that you got something where you are totally wrong and still drunk of illusions.

    Meditating?It has to be taken carefully!

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    "Sleep is the best meditation." Dalai Lama
    Becoming what I've dreamed about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachsan
    i don't and never have meditated much. the honest truth is, most people whom i've known throughout life who were heavily into meditation were anything but relaxed, focused or "centered". it seems to me that the wackier claims about meditation have a way of attracting a very unconventional crowd, to put it nicely. and no, i'm not just talking about beginners.

    not to be mean but, case in point.


    To begin with ...........both the dalai , the soke Haatsumi and the abbott 've told you all , that if you sleep during your meditation , you're doing it wrong!!! Sleep is sleep and meditation is meditation . They're similar brain patterns and frequencies , but totally different.
    It's as tedious at times to meditate as your hour isos can be , but it's about discipline / focus and committment and taking time out of your concious day to hash things out in real life persective............ or at minimum, just go quiet or empty minded a moment , where if no great insights are gained, at minimum, you're body reaps huge physiological benifits and live longer and better for having done it.
    On martial game and meditation though, it's also a wellknown concept that to meditate on your forms being played , or competitors and other considerations etc, that you're game will become tighter. It also works for life goals and jazz and in business and communication seminars is called "creative visulisation".




    S[peaking of not being focussed though and as far as focus goes , your take on how focussed someone else is on the task , depends entirely on the size and parameters of the task you think they're focussing on.
    ............... different lvls of knowing a world to operate and why so many fighters ( including monks ) and serious business folks even are single for so long.

    As for being relaxed.......... ( & not mentioning wiskey for even a moment) I think it's perfectly natural to become emotionally out of sorts as you gather new insights and enter transitional growth. It's like when 2 realities collide and obviously there's turbulance until it gives either way........ you grow and purpsue something else on higher psychological operandi or you step back and accept the new reality as a dilema ( or hardship ) of your old one .

    On the conventional crowd though , as it turns out......... the "convential " crowd here in Australia, as in the minister of health and friends , have recently been following and now support research based insights on the benifits of both alternative therapy and meditation ( for many many things and most particularly relating to cancer and the benifits of focus and relaxation it gives it's suffers, not to mention the obvious well documented research data on the effects of "corperate " business employees and so on ( in both health and productivity from reduction of stress and increase of focus and daily demeanor )and now also ( but only because of the science ) have publicly advocated it , endorsed it and plegded to and appealed to the national public to consider this themselves as a viable thumbs up option.

    And no I'm not conventional, ............... but neither were the folks swearing the earth wasn't flat!!!! ............long as you're onto it though Zach........seems we'll all be fine !

    cheers

    BTL
    "honestly girls dont seem to want anything other then whatever they want "atm" then that can always change:"
    maestro's love genius.

    first we work to live, then we live to work, ..& then when someone else can do it good enough without us - we can all run off and die.
    Blooming tianshi lotus

    "find something & thatd turn me on.." drahillionaire, warren buffet.

    'if you keep going, eventually you get there' chuck norris

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    I read it the first time thx!! ( but fyi , I might just try that again )
    "honestly girls dont seem to want anything other then whatever they want "atm" then that can always change:"
    maestro's love genius.

    first we work to live, then we live to work, ..& then when someone else can do it good enough without us - we can all run off and die.
    Blooming tianshi lotus

    "find something & thatd turn me on.." drahillionaire, warren buffet.

    'if you keep going, eventually you get there' chuck norris

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    Let me show you why i think you must be happier than me in your naivety,ans how small and inhibited you definitly are:
    "{[/ QUOTE/]} : " I'll let you figure out what you all bout"This in enough for me to know that you are suffering,LOL

    "find something that's bugging you and sit and run possibilities and effects until you find a peace resoloution and walah:succesful meditation(btw : I've learnt , taught this for 16yrs.."------>16 years on the wrong path,damned it's too late for you,really.

    When i read you,as well as when i read your posts since a while now,i only see egocentrism and mind masturbation,which makes me hundred per cent sure that you are everything but enlightned,but more of a kind of self conscious spoilt brat over confident.

    I have no respect for you,i just feel nothing.I bet the best you have to do now is to enter a real fight and get your ass kicked(god i wish i was the one),or maybe find a man who ****s you well would help you to release all this shit you hold inside.

    I tried to be patient with you,but i really couldn't stand it anymore(LLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL),and i think i'm not the only one here on internet or in Australia!(mostly your friends if you have some)
    Hey,advice,create your own forum,where only you can acess,then you could ask questions and anwer it all by yourself!

    Alright you can now quote from here and demonstrate your all mighty wisdom i don't give a ****,bloody hell!

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    again BL, as i said, i was putting it nicely. i wasn't really talking about conventional vs. unconventional, i was talking about sane vs. ****ing nuts.

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