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    If u want to travel in any part of Tibet, i higly recommand Paichen as a guide. He has studied english in India, has a good knowledge of buddhism and is very friendly.

    Please email him for information

    paichendorjee@yahoo.com

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    but is he a vegetarian?
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    • #3
      well tibetans are chinese not hindu so they are few veg but they are proud to say they kill few animals

      their buddhism makes them quite receptive of the doctrine of not killing

      as Karmapa asked kagyu followers to be veg there might be some changes in the future...

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      • #4
        yes, but still, how can you really trust a meat-eater to guide you?
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        • #5
          Dogs lead the blinds.

          If you want complete awakening to non violence you might follow someone who has some knowledge on the path, though it might not be complete.

          To awake to the mystics of the buddha, do you need to let the animals be free?

          I have no answer.

          Good luck with the suffering, the violence and the non sense of living beings.

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          • #6
            why do you seek the complete awakening of non-violence? and to also awake to the mystics of the budda? did someone tell you to?
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            • #7
              Good questions. Have u ever read Socrates, i m sure u d like his style.

              1 Why seek non violence? Because when i see an old man begging on the streets of China it makes me sick and suffer. See other people suffering makes me suffer and feel mad sometimes. Most people use their ego to cut their relation with other living being suffering but on the contrary i try to feel it, in order to have a mystical connection. But sometimes my mind is also corrupt and i do not seek non violence.

              Though there are tons of other reasons. Selfish ones like afraid of reincarnating in a position where i would also suffer. Meditate on reincarnation is very interesting and opens a different perspective from what we have been taught in the west.

              But since i started studying philosophy in school, i have always wanted to struggle for justice, starting from a political and anti capitalist point of view. By the way Dalai Lama 14 also says he is a socialist.

              2 Why seek for buddha mystics? Well i dont believe in buddhism and i also believe in it. So i cannot logically reject the effort to become a buddha in order to save every sentient being from suffering and i have to act in such a way for being logical with my today's understanding. I took the bodhisattvas vows with the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, India and i though it was very coherent with my quest for political justice and good ethics. I reccomend u try this ritual, bodhisattva vows, if u find some monk that can make it for u in Taiwan. Rituals were so important in past china but now rituals are soccer games...

              To put a probability in the possibility of becoming a buddha is also life changing and opens very interesting new perspective. To live in ignorance and probabilities opens a lot of gates, including the gates of Shaolin.

              3 Did someone tell me to? Yeah, i think Budha and Guan Yin Pusa gave me signs, but that is just a belief. Do u believe in ghosts or mystics? But with a view on emptiness can u separate u and the other, be it evil or good?

              Peace and love
              Last edited by liutangsanzang; 07-20-2008, 04:30 PM.

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              • #8
                If Tibetans are really Chinese as you say, then why are they called Tibetans?
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                • #9
                  hmm, i dont get it, and i dont dont know why i dont know...

                  good question...
                  "Life is a run. In attack we run, in defense we run. When you can no longer run, time to die" - Shichiroji "Seven samurai"

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                  • #10
                    Because when i see an old man begging on the streets of China it makes me sick and suffer. See other people suffering makes me suffer and feel mad sometimes. Most people use their ego to cut their relation with other living being suffering but on the contrary i try to feel it, in order to have a mystical connection. But sometimes my mind is also corrupt and i do not seek non violence.
                    so how does this relate to the original question: "Why seek non violence?" doesn't appear you answered this yet.

                    I took the bodhisattvas vows with the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya, India and i though it was very coherent with my quest for political justice and good ethics. I reccomend u try this ritual, bodhisattva vows, if u find some monk that can make it for u in Taiwan. Rituals were so important in past china but now rituals are soccer games...
                    though you are still unsure if buddhism is true , you've taken vows which signify that you are, in fact, buddhist. now you seek the buddha mystics because of these vows, and are suggesting that i take them, too. on what bases?

                    i think Budha and Guan Yin Pusa gave me signs,
                    well i think jesus gave me signs and also died on the cross on my behalf. i think you should go to church, read the bible, repent, and pray to jesus for salvation.. who's right?
                    Last edited by onesp1ng; 07-21-2008, 03:29 AM.
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                    • #11
                      0 Tibetans r called chinese the same way basque people r called french. Dont u know there is a Lassa city in the mountains of Basque country?

                      1 I want to find absolute non violence in order to cure my feeling of madness when i see a poor old man begging. But that s just one reason. Another is that i m a radical basque and i cannot stand the imperialist atrocities the west has created, even in the recent years. Allende not dead.

                      2 I advice u take the bodisattva vows on the base of probabilities and interest in rituals, rituals which founded the social life of ancient china.

                      3 Is there a contradiction between Jesus and Budda? Isnt Jesus supposed to be reincarnated sometimes? What signs did u have from him?

                      Peace and love

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                      • #12
                        I advice u take the bodisattva vows on the base of probabilities and interest in rituals
                        so you feel it would be well advised for me to take vows, which, if taken seriously, would probably assume a commitment, even lifelong, on the bases that i may find it interesting? well, if i don’t like them after awhile, what then?

                        Is there a contradiction between Jesus and Budda?
                        ok, then why not just ask that i repent for my sins, attend church, and be reborn again to his savior our lord jesus christ?
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                        • #13
                          According to Chan, here are the vows

                          Sino-JapaneseEnglishChinese (pinyin)Chinese (hanzi)
                          Shi gu sei gan The Four Great Vows Sì hóng shì yuàn 四弘誓願
                          Shu jo mu hen sei gan do I vow to liberate all beings, without number Zhòng shēng wúbiān shì yuàn dù 眾生無邊誓願度
                          Bon no mu jin sei gan dan I vow to uproot endless blind passions Fánnǎo wújìn shì yuàn duàn 煩惱無盡誓願斷
                          Ho mon mu ryo sei gan gaku I vow to penetrate dharma gates beyond measure Fǎ mén wúliàng shì yuàn xué 法門無量誓願學
                          Butsu do mu jo sei gan jo I vow to attain the way of the Buddha Fó dào wúshàng shì yuàn chéng 佛道無上誓願成


                          According to tibetan buddhism here are the 18 bodhisattva vows

                          Asanga's Bodhisattvabhumi

                          Asanga (circa 300 AD) delineated 18 major vows and forty-six minor vows. These Bodhisattva vows are still used by the Gelukpa and Kagyu traditions of Indo-Tibetan Buddhism. The eighteen major vows (as actions to be abandoned) are as follows:
                          1. Praising oneself or belittling others due to attachment to receiving material offerings, praise and respect.
                          2. Not giving material aid or (due to miserliness) not teaching the Dharma to those who are suffering and without a protector.
                          3. Not listening to others' apologies or striking others
                          4. Abandoning the Mahayana by saying that Mahayana texts are not the words of Buddha or teaching what appears to be the Dharma but is not.
                          5. Taking things belonging to Buddha, Dharma or Sangha.
                          6. Abandoning the holy Dharma by saying that texts which teach the three vehicles are not the Buddha's word.
                          7. With anger depriving ordained ones of their robes, beating and imprisoning them or causing them to lose their ordination even if they have impure morality, for example, by saying that being ordained is useless.
                          8. Committing any of the five extremely negative actions: (1) killing one's mother, (2) killing one's father, (3) killing an arhat, (4) intentionally drawing blood from a Buddha or (5) causing schism in the Sangha community by supporting and spreading sectarian views.
                          9. Holding distorted views (which are contrary to the teaching of Buddha, such as denying the existence of the Three Jewels or the law of cause and effect etc.)
                          10. Destroying towns, villages, cities or large areas by means such as fire, bombs, pollution or black magic.
                          11. Teaching emptiness to those whose minds are unprepared.
                          12. Causing those who have entered the Mahayana to turn away from working for the full enlightenment of Buddhahood and encouraging them to work merely for their own liberation from suffering.
                          13. Causing others to abandon their Pratimoksha vows.
                          14. Belittling the Śrāvaka or Pratyekabuddha vehicle (by holding and causing others to hold the view that these vehicles do not abandon attachment and other delusions).
                          15. Falsely stating that oneself has realised profound emptiness and that if others meditate as one has, they will realize emptiness and become as great and as highly realized as oneself.
                          16. Taking gifts from others who were encouraged to give you things originally intended as offerings to the Three Jewels. Not giving things to the Three Jewels that others have given you to give to them, or accepting property stolen from the Three Jewels.
                          17. Causing those engaged in calm-abiding meditation to give it up by giving their belongings to those who are merely reciting texts or making bad disciplinary rules which cause a spiritual community not to be harmonious.
                          18. Abandoning the either of the two types of Bodhicitta (aspiring and engaging).
                          According to Atisha the Pratimoksha vows are the basis for the Bodhisattva vows. Without keeping one of the different sets of Pratimoksha vows (in one of existing Vinaya schools), there is no Bodhisattva vow.[2]
                          Last edited by liutangsanzang; 07-21-2008, 04:50 PM.

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                          • #14
                            If i remember correctly the bodhisattva vow ritual, u can choose which vows u want to follow.

                            As for what will happen if one changes his mind or break the vows, according to buddhism it is more a question of karma than of breaking a religious rule.

                            To have an idea on bodhisattva life, i reccomend Shantideva book: bodhisattvachariavatara.

                            As for having a christian life, if u do not commit sin against any living being, including animals, that will perfectly do for a buddhist, though it might not guarantee you will not suffer.

                            Peace and love
                            Last edited by liutangsanzang; 07-21-2008, 05:06 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
                              3 Do not have any other gods before me.

                              4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

                              5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

                              6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

                              7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

                              8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

                              9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

                              10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.

                              11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

                              12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

                              13 You shall not murder.

                              14 You shall not commit adultery.

                              15 You shall not steal.

                              16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.

                              17 You shall not covet your neighbour’s house; you shall not covet your neighbour’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
                              6 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
                              7 you shall have no other gods before me.

                              8 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

                              9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,

                              10 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

                              11 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

                              12 Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you.

                              13 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

                              14 But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you.

                              15 Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.

                              16 Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

                              17 You shall not murder.

                              18 Neither shall you commit adultery.

                              19 Neither shall you steal.

                              20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour.

                              21 Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
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