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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5r5QEHhzJ8"]YouTube - The Obama Deception Part 5 Of 12[/ame]

    i just watched this part 5 havent seen the whole thing yet, but i found this interesting. does anyone know about the cabinet members they talking about and has anyone else seen this
    "did you ask me to consider dick with you??" blooming tianshi lotus

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    Question.

    So what?

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    • #3
      Gonna start a thread on Obama's deceptive practices?

      I'm staying away. (My feelings have been previously expressed). We'll never be able to explore it all.

      But one day, someone is going to write one hell of a book about this guy, his campaign, and his presidency. It's going to be a doozey.
      Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

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      • #4
        the problem for me is i dont really know much of anything when it comes to world leaders and the wealthy people and powerful people who influence us all the time, so when they name names..i dont really know what their talking about

        i watched a few other parts of this documentary last night its very interesting

        really i dont want to get into a barak debate or anything i was just curious if anyone else saw this documentary and what they thought
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        • #5
          This was an actual documentary on television? Attacking Obama?

          The liberal left leaning media that put this moron into the White House has now turned against him?
          Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

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          • #6
            alex jones made this documentary, the whole thing is on youtube just type in the obama deception..

            i know its hard to focus while sitting on a beach getting your licky licky and eating delicious food and whatnot but try and pay attention once and awhile, it will keep your mind sharp lolo
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            • #7
              you probably won't find any of alex jones's material in the mainstream media.
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              • #8
                I ll watch when the connection is better.

                The world of politics is quite specific with rules u have to conform to if u want power. Regarding my experience in the socialist party of france, i find there is a lot of emotional unbalance. A lot of people want to do good, but as normal human beings sometimes they cannot control their emotions and can easily go into anger, resentment, even hatred. The dialectic of politics works a lot on exclusion (he does not agree with me so he is not my friend) while buddhism says we should consider everybody as our friend. Meditation in the yin side for example seems more a process of inclusion than exclusion.

                Though for me it is difficult to reach Yin as my judgements and desires blocks me from entering emptiness.

                I have the feeling that Doc is a bit on the exclusion side instead of being Yin. I would agree with him that Yin means also reflecting the ignorance and violence in emptiness but i find him a bit too subjective and self affirmative.

                Lastly i still ask u all what do u think of killing afghan civilian and talibans without trial or defense in general and in regard of the budist precept not to kill/ the teaching of angulimala sutta not to apply death penalty.

                Peace and love

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by liutangsanzang View Post
                  The dialectic of politics works a lot on exclusion (he does not agree with me so he is not my friend)
                  Interesting comment. This is something that, from what I've read in history books of the Middle East region, seems to be a persistent theme in the Arab world. Are you referring to the recent immigrants to France, to a specific people, or just people in France in general?

                  and doc is not an exclusionist. I hang out with people I disagree with all of the time. We eat meat together.
                  Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

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                  • #10
                    doc and everyone else what do you think about the banking situation right now? this documentary has alot to do with that and i think about it because..i have never trusted banks lol if you ask anyone who knows me they will tell u its not uncommon for me to walk around with a couple thousand dollars or whatever lol

                    anyway, i wont really have a choice when i come overseas its inevitable i guess

                    what i am worried about is an article i read recently about the gov saying the fdic could go bankrupt and they talk about the main banks in america are going under

                    money is important to everyone so does anyone have any thoughts? and this documentary also touches on world and central banking..does anyone have anything to say about this? even an oppinion would interest me lolo
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by liutangsanzang View Post
                      Lastly i still ask u all what do u think of killing afghan civilian and talibans without trial or defense in general and in regard of the budist precept not to kill/ the teaching of angulimala sutta not to apply death penalty.

                      Peace and love
                      It sucks.

                      What do you think of killing enemy combatants?

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                      • #12
                        Doc, by this dialectic of exclusion i was thinking mostly to politicians. I ve been quite a while in the socialist party and in touch with middle level people and i find it so strange how they would insult their comrades inside the party if they disagree with them. The arhat is the one who has no enemies

                        Maestro, personnaly i think we would be happier living like animals and not using money. When the world was divided money could have its function but i think the world is quite ready to stop using money. Can u know how much suffering is created because of economy? Think how many depressions and suicides. Thats why i think people says Bush is the biggest terrorist are not completly mad. So stopping using money could be quite paradiasiac, if u need something someone will give it u. Of course still needs to work but that would be so much relax. I dont know why politicians do not work for this idea. Also it will allow to practice the first budist virtue, paramita, of giving instead of exchanging which can be quite selfish.

                        Dogchow, i believe killing enemies conbatants should be last issue. But first i though a budist arhat has no enemy. So why some politicians use the rethorics of the enemy? I ve no clear idea on the issue of afghanistan but i find it strange that we value more the life of nato fighters who have chosen to do this mission instead of the life of afghan civilians who do not desire to die. It makes me think of what master Thich Nhat Hanh said about the vietnam war that americans were discriminating between their suffering and the suffering of vietnamese civilians. I dont want to blame but i d be interested to exchange views to clarify my ideas

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by liutangsanzang View Post
                          Dogchow, i believe killing enemies conbatants should be last issue. But first i though a budist arhat has no enemy. So why some politicians use the rethorics of the enemy?
                          I agree that killing enemy combatants should be the last option. But you need to understand that politicians (especially western ones) are

                          A: Not buddhist

                          B: Dont care to pretend to be arhats/boddhisatvas, something which (no offense) I think you do and expect everyone else to do as well.

                          C: Unremorseful about the above two.

                          It is not realistic of you to expect these people to carry out ideals that you seem to do little more than post about.

                          Originally posted by liutangsanzang View Post
                          I ve no clear idea on the issue of afghanistan but i find it strange that we value more the life of nato fighters who have chosen to do this mission instead of the life of afghan civilians who do not desire to die.
                          I agree with you that the worth of Nato lives is no different than the worth of the lives of enemy combatants. But this is a war. It boils down to numbers and strategies.

                          When you go to war, you reject the assumption that human life is universally priceless. Your objective in war is to win; and part of this involves taking actions which require the death or surrender of enemy combatants.

                          Don't forget that the "enemy" has the choice to surrender and not die or kill.

                          On some measure, the target makes clear their own opinion of what their life is worth when they take up arms against a vast and technologically superior invader.

                          Originally posted by liutangsanzang View Post
                          It makes me think of what master Thich Nhat Hanh said about the vietnam war that americans were discriminating between their suffering and the suffering of vietnamese civilians. I dont want to blame but i d be interested to exchange views to clarify my ideas

                          Peace and love
                          I agree with Thich Nhat Hanh on this, as I do not believe we needed to fight in Vietnam.

                          That said, It is possible that the war had far-reaching ecomonical benefits for this nation. From that standpoint, again, someone who is not interested in being an arhat/boddhisatva just won't care about the human lives involved and cannot be expected to value the lives of his percieved enemy more than those of the soldiers doing his bidding.

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                          • #14
                            OK, thanks i ll think about that.

                            My position i try to hold being ignorant about being bodisatva or luohan is nor reject or accept.

                            This might be in resonance with the vipassana technique as taught by Goenka ji which emphasizes on equanimity being without desire or aversion.

                            Though i dont think u need be a budist to consider every being as ur friend and wanting to end his suffering through all ages... It seems just simple love.

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                            • #15
                              My position i try to hold being ignorant about being bodisatva or luohan is nor reject or accept.
                              seems a bit contradictory. to hold a position, to not reject or accept...etc..
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