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    Terrorism in America

    No doubt you got this email from a friend. I post it here to be redundant.

    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard -- she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City a few weeks ago, he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.


    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.


    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.


    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked! Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.

    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i. e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as rural America this time (Wyoming, Montana, etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas , they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.

    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts.. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.

    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown' -- having attended and been educated in our own
    schools and universities right here in the U. S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will, inevitably, face. America still has only have a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.

    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,
    Ireland 's and England 's hands-on examples of human intelligence,
    both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is
    a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in f ive major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!

    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves. But, unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.


    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases!)


    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, to respond to in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools, too, develop plans of actions, as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan that, in the event of another terrorist attack, will immediately cut-off EVERYONE's ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., as this is
    the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you
    cannot speak? You need to have a plan.
    We've been aware of the car bomb potential in Vegas for years, but, only one hotel has made any sort of attempt to thwart such an attack (the Venetian, owned by Sheldon Adelson, of the Jewish faith. He felt his properties were a target after 9/11 because of that)
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    I m strongly against terrorism and state terrorism, it is useless suffering.

    I dont know but i think this guy is a bit paranoiac and spread his paranoia.

    Look at his diagnosis and solution
    "So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's"

    How to end terrorism? Kill palestinian children!

    So simple.

    But i guess this guy would loose his job if there was no terrorism.

    I suggest u reflect on how a luohan has no enemy.

    Peace and love
    Namo Guan Yin Pusa / Dont create suffering / Dont harm animals!

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    Yup. A lot fwhat he's saying makes sense. But he doesn't tell us why he thinks there's going to be an attack in the next few months. Although I suppose that is the nature of spies.

    But this part is ridiculous: "The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant." How exactly will anti-American terrorism render the future of life on Earth "totally irrelevant"? And why can't neocons stick to one subject at a time? Throwing this in makes it fairly obvious that this is conservative propaganda.

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    Although if the central message is "get the cops if you see an unattended bag" I can't say it's a bad thing. It's just that some people might be more likely to come away with the message "holy shit we're all gonna die hide your from the Arabs".

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    No doubt you got this email from a friend. I post it here to be redundant.
    Actually I did not receive it. I am not on the Jewish propaganda distribution list.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie 'Munich' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. But, unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred
    Of course he was right. The London subway bombing was an Israeli operation. Juval was telling OReilly what Israel was going to do next.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11 a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments.
    Israel was the country that attacked America on 9/11.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.
    The Obama adminstration has hired every Jew in America. No surprise Congress is too.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in.
    Because that is how an Israeli would carry out the attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel's,
    Ireland 's and England 's hands-on examples of human intelligence,
    both from an infiltration perspective as well as to trust 'aware' citizens to help.
    Basically this guy is saying we need to turn into a dictatorship like Russia or East Germany, where everyone in the country was an informer on their neighbors. We need to spend all our lives living in fear and telling the authorities we think our neighbor is up to something.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in f ive major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!
    This murder knows it is impossible to stop the type of attacks he just described. Israel had the USA invade Iraq because the Palestinians were winning with their suicide bombers. No one in the entire world can stop people willing to attack in the way this man is describing.

    Quote Originally Posted by doc View Post
    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!'
    Those Israelis are so afraid in their own country that if they see a bag, instead of just walking by and enjoying the day, wondering who left a trash bag laying out, they have to call police because some friends of the people the Israelis murdered might have left a bomb in the bag.

    Wouldn't it be great to be Israeli? Living in fear every moment, because the friends of the people you murder might be behind you looking for revenge.

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    Mobutu if u r serious about practicing shaolin gongfu u should develop love and compassion for the suffering of israel people and for suffering of every being without discrimination. See the suffering and find how to end with love it is the basis of shaolin, i believe.

    Developing love, loving ignorance, seeing how every dharma is love, will help u cure ur paranoia, i think. Mahayana emphasizes mistake are made because of ignorance, which is an absence. How can u hate something that is absent? And the way to fill the absence isnt it love? And isnt every human acting only according to its understanding of love, so being love himself?

    Good luck

    peace and love
    Namo Guan Yin Pusa / Dont create suffering / Dont harm animals!

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    Mboko, you should offer your services in examining the bags. Charge them $100 an hour. Sure bet. You'll live like a king.


    Zach, you are again making the intellectual's hubris by obsessing over a claim's necessity to be spelled out to it's audience to be true.

    There is no evidence for truth.

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    I'm not sure what great fallacy I'm committing when I ask to see the evidence for something before taking it seriously. And I'm not sure how statements like "there is no evidence for truth" are helping anyone in a serious conversation. Talk about intellectual hubris.

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    Talking about hubris, an interesting problematic of exceding desire, makes me think zac looks greek and socrates often says: "By the Dog!"

    Peace and love
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    Quote Originally Posted by zachsan View Post
    I'm not sure what great fallacy I'm committing when I ask to see the evidence for something before taking it seriously. And I'm not sure how statements like "there is no evidence for truth" are helping anyone in a serious conversation. Talk about intellectual hubris.


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