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    Wing Chun conditioning

    I'm in wing chun training right now...and i'm wondering...besides qi gong, what else can i do to condition my body, and especially forearms? Something i can do daily. How many would I do?

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    do the sticking hands training if you are learning that - your arms get conditioned as a side-effect of training with a partner, and you also improve your sensitivity and footwork too

    Some people say use the dummy to make your arms harder, but really its more about learning angles to attack and how to use your footwork.

    dave
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    Yeah, see if you guys do a version of the 3 star drill.
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    When I used to practice externals styles about five or six yrs ago, I used to condition my forearms and stomach by striking them. For my forearms I first began to hit lightly against a tree that had rough bark, eventually the forearms got conditioned and tough and I was able to hit the tree at full strength; after which I moved onto a concrete light post, which conditioned it further.

    For my stomach I began to hit lightly with my fingers while holding my breath and tensing my abdomen, then I would exhale and massage then I would repeat. From fingers you move to fists, then to a rubber mallet, then a wooden one, then a metal one.

    It took me about a year or two to be fairly conditioned. My arms were so tough that I was able to break half inch diameter sticks with ease. Also, once I got into car accident and they had to put an I V in my forearm and they had to try to different places because it wouldn't go in!! My abdomen was tough that my friend nearly broke his wrist on my stomach when he punched me. Also I could bend a pointy spring steel broadsword on my stomach!

    In any case, though you should be careful when doing these things, especially if you are still growing. I have ceased to these practices for years; however, my ulna and radius bones still maintain a strange degree of toughness that tends bruise people when I do strong push hands practice. They are probably like that because I was still growing at the time of doing these things. I don't even want to know what I have done to my internal organs through the iron stomach practice.
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    One thing I would also like to say is that I had the proper liniment for this training and I would suggest that you should have it as well. Also make sure you ask your Master/Teacher to do this or ask him what type of training practices he knows. I'm sure that he's got some good stuff, every style does.
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    Good dit da jow helps alot.
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    thats why i just recommended doing more sticking hands training - its a 2 person drill similar to pushing hands but not circular... so your arms get stronger and also develop "listening" ability at the same time - as well as your skill improving

    Also you shouldnt really need to condition your arms to any great degree, if force comes you should just dissolve away from it and move on to a different line... "borrow what comes in, escort what leaves, when space go straight in" is the wing chun maxim after all

    If you know the first form Siu L(N)im Tao then practise it a lot doing especially the tan sau, fuk sau and wu sau sections slowly, it will also develop your body which is why it is so important - as well as your connection to the ground thru your stance.

    dave
    simple and natural is my method,
    true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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    ps. i have been away for a few months - good to see you back fa hui

    dave
    simple and natural is my method,
    true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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    Fa Hui, nice to know that you were able to reinforce your forarms to such a degree by hitting them. I myself do something similar, maybe not as intense : I contract the muscles of my forarms then hit them together (the interior of my left forarm strikes the upper right forarm, and vice versa) I do this whenever I think to do it, everyday, for a couple of minutes. I was told it helped more to get used to the pain than to toughen them up, which I find to be very helpfull when doing forarm blocks.

    Also, I wonder if anyone knows of a way to strengthen one's wrists? In class I practiced sweeping palm blocks with an other novice kung-fu student who already had several months (could be years) of ninjitsu training. When it was his turn to block and mine to strike, he kept blocking at my wrists. The pain didn't stop me from continuing the practice but it still hurt (I like to think I am fairly resistant to pain, thanks to my angst filled/self-destructive/mutilation phase of my high school years).

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    angst is bad for the forearms.

    all of these are very good suggestions. also, you could borrow a trick from hung gar (which is closely related to wing chun after all), and practice your forms with metal rings around your forearms. when you execute, say, a punch, they'll hit up against your wrist and thereby toughen up your forearms. they're also nice for the slight added weight. start with one on each arm and work your way up from there.

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