Re: respect
Hi folks
All this title nonsense has been done to death in karate. We have Sensei and Dai Sensei and O'Sensei and Kyoshi and Hanshi and people claiming Menkyo Kaiden and Master and Grand Master and Great Grand Master and on and on and on.
See this? This is your future. You ain't seen nothin yet.
No its not. Well, it shouldn't be. Why should we make it harder on ourselves? Why is an "extra" level of respect needed to interact with someone you are paying to provide a service? Why is an "extra" level of respect needed at all. Be polite according to the local cultural rules.
In the West, respect in MA has become the student playing the game established by the teacher in order to get training. The current situation is ripe for misuse and abuse (as has been demonstrated for years). It gets us (those on the receiving and giving ends) nothing. And when you see yourself changing clothes, working out and being required to use titles - its silly.
Its the equivalent of putting on armor and calling each other Sir Knight.
Now that I've pissed everyone off, I'll get to the point.
Since MA titles have become meaningless, isn't arguing over who should or should not use one also meaningless? I have no idea of Dan Hartwright's ability and I couldn't judge what honorific is required by his skill. Let those who can worry about it. If there's anything to worry about at all.
Mark
Hi folks
All this title nonsense has been done to death in karate. We have Sensei and Dai Sensei and O'Sensei and Kyoshi and Hanshi and people claiming Menkyo Kaiden and Master and Grand Master and Great Grand Master and on and on and on.
See this? This is your future. You ain't seen nothin yet.
Originally posted by bhodi
Respect is a big deal
Respect is a big deal
Respect is a big deal in a master /disciple relationship and if this is not something that you feel then I would suggest that you are not in one...in which case the signs of it existing in your situation (like calling someone Master) are a farse and do nothing positive for anyone involved.
Its the equivalent of putting on armor and calling each other Sir Knight.
Now that I've pissed everyone off, I'll get to the point.
Since MA titles have become meaningless, isn't arguing over who should or should not use one also meaningless? I have no idea of Dan Hartwright's ability and I couldn't judge what honorific is required by his skill. Let those who can worry about it. If there's anything to worry about at all.
Mark
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