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zachsan
09-07-2004, 06:31 PM
some of the stupidest **** i have ever heard, i swear. i have no problem with political hip-hop, but some of it really is intelligent... and this, well, isn't.

some selected lines if you will, in no particular order:


Yea, and why they gon give you life for a murder
Why they sellin' niggaz CD's for under a dime
Why is a brother up North better then Jordan
Why did bush knock down the towers
Why Aaliyah have to take that flight
Why they come up wit the witness protection
Why halle have to let a white man pop her to get a oscar
Why they didn't make the CL6 wit a clutch (does this count as political?)
Why they ain't give us a cure for aids


me and my buddy were at the mall the other day and saw a shirt at one of the stores with a big "WHY?" on the front in reference to this masterpiece of activist poetry.

mortal
09-07-2004, 08:01 PM
It's like he is proud of himself for figuring out these theories that are completely ass backwards.

Yea, and why they gon give you life for a murder- That is the least you should get. I think youy should be shot on the spot.

Why they sellin' niggaz CD's for under a dime- Who's they? The white man?

Why is a brother up North better then Jordan- Not even sure what he is talking about. Probably basketball.

Why did bush knock down the towers- Duh! Give me a break. More random conspiricey crap.

Why Aaliyah have to take that flight- Has nothing to do with anything. Who cares.

Why they come up wit the witness protection- To protect people who testify against major criminals.

Why halle have to let a white man pop her to get a oscar- Like they really had sex? She happened to play her best role in that movie. It had nothing to with that. There are plenty of black stars banging white girls.

Why they didn't make the CL6 wit a clutch (does this count as political?)- again has nothing to do with the lame lyrics.

Why they ain't give us a cure for aids - again who is they? Like the governnment is just holding on to the cure to kill poor black folk. Whites are dying everyday from Aids.

zachsan
09-07-2004, 08:14 PM
lol mortal, i selected those particular lines because i thought it wouldn't take any explanation to show how stupid they were. if you really really want to explain it that's fine i guess, haha...

mortal
09-07-2004, 08:27 PM
lolo You're right. I'm bored at work today. It doesn't need an explantion.

doc
09-08-2004, 02:52 AM
Quote from one of my US female friends, a judge for that matter:

"If Halle Berry can't hold onto a relationship, what chance do the rest of us have?"

LOL....

shaolinstylee
09-08-2004, 03:11 AM
Hey, no matter how hot the chick is, at one point, some dude was tired of her.

words of wisdom

ss 9-7-04

Steve
09-08-2004, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by shaolinstylee
Hey, no matter how hot the chick is, at one point, some dude was tired of her.

words of wisdom

ss 9-7-04


You trying to take credit for that quote?
I live it.

daodejing
09-08-2004, 06:12 PM
Why did aaliyah have to take that flight? The real question is why did aaliyah ignore the complaints of the pilot that her entourage and luggage were well in excess of the plane's maximum weight capacity?

As for all that crap, if you're looking for intelligent politically active hip hop, go for common, mos def, talib kweli, some wutang clan (gza and rza are intelligent, and sometimes political, ODB is just intelligible), and immortal technique.

Listening to jadakiss try to talk politics is much like listening to nelly try to rap about the philosophy of asceticism.

LeiYunFat
09-09-2004, 12:31 AM
All this talk about stupidity in rap reminds me of the Juvinille video of 'Slow Motion'...there are kids holding up signs hat have the 10 Commandments written on them, and yet the song is about having sex and objectifying women. It's annoyingly amusing.

zachsan
09-09-2004, 12:44 AM
i think that a big problem with political hip-hop is that it tends to subscribe to a view of 'solidarity' that is so far over the top that it pretty much precludes critical thought. for example, you have to subscribe to certain universal truths for your raps to be deemed "real", like biggie was the greatest rapper that ever lived, or street crime is OK because you're only a product of your environment after all, etc. and in the same vein, idiotic **** like that mentioned above has to be agreed with and stood behind even if you're way too smart for it, otherwise you're not a true believer and you've strayed from the Roots Of Hip-Hop, etc.

yet another reason why it's bad when politics become a fashion statement. exemplified perfectly by those "why?" t-shirts.

zachsan
09-09-2004, 12:53 AM
hehe, oops....

Originally posted by zachsan
...i have no problem with political hip-hop...

Originally posted by zachsan
i think that a big problem with political hip-hop is...
i guess i'm a wishy-washy flip-flopper. who knew? ;)

LeiYunFat
09-09-2004, 02:34 AM
Great post. I agree wholeheartedly. I agree that those who subscribe to the exemplified 'thug life' tend to get themselves into more **** than they should be getting. While I do enjoy hip-hop, there are just really big potholes you need to get through if indeed you are going to live a hip-hop lifestyle.

lester1/2jr
09-11-2004, 08:54 PM
he's just trying to cash in on farenheit 9/11. He has no idea what he's talking about. Here's some real lyrics Jesus Walks Lyrics
by Kanye West

Yo, We at war
We at war with terrorism, racism but most of all we at war with ourselves
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me) with me with me with me [fades]

You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is
I walk through the valley of Chi where death is
Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless Uhhhh!
Try to catch it Uhhhh! It's kinda hard hard
Getting choked by the detectives yeah yeah now check the method
They be asking us questions, harass and arrest us
Saying "we eat pieces of **** like you for breakfast"
Huh? Yall eat pieces of ****? What's the basis?
We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases
A trunk full of coke rental car from Avis
My momma used to say only Jesus can save us
Well momma I know I act a fool
But I'll be gone til November I got packs to move I Hope

[HOOK x2]
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus Walks with me)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

To the hustlas, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cuz we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks)
The only thing that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now

Maestro
09-11-2004, 11:39 PM
are you serious lester? that song sucks

so theyre liven in hell with their lexus's and necklaces..oh god forbid someone takes your bling bling!

that **** gets old

Asger
09-12-2004, 09:10 AM
Yeah, i don't think there is much substance in those kinda lyrics.
You ought to listen to Immortal Technique - The Poverty of Philosophy

I bring you the lyrics, so turn off the news and read:


Most of my Latino and black people who are struggling to get food, clothes and shelter in the hood are so concerned with that, that philosophising about freedom and socialist democracy is usually unfortunately beyond their rationale. They don't realise that America can't exist without separating them from their identity, because if we had some sense of who we really are, there's no way in hell we'd allow this country to push it's genocidal consensus on our homelands. This ignorance exists, but it can be destroyed.

Niggaz talk about change and working within the system to achieve that. The problem with always being a conformist is that when you try to change the system from within, it's not you who changes the system; it's the system that will eventually change you. There is usually nothing wrong with compromise in a situation, but compromising yourself in a situation is another story completely, and I have seen this happen long enough in the few years that I've been alive to know that it's a serious problem. Latino America is a huge colony of countries whose presidents are cowards in the face of economic imperialism. You see, third world countries are rich places, abundant in resources, and many of these countries have the capacity to feed their starving people and the children we always see digging for food in trash on commercials. But plutocracies, in other words a government run by the rich such as this one and traditionally oppressive European states, force the third world into buying overpriced, unnecessary goods while exporting huge portions of their natural resources.

I'm quite sure that people will look upon my attitude and sentiments and look for hypocrisy and hatred in my words. My revolution is born out of love for my people, not hatred for others.

You see, most of Latinos are here because of the great inflation that was caused by American companies in Latin America. Aside from that, many are seeking a life away from the puppet democracies that were funded by the United States; places like El Salvador, Guatemala, Peru, Columbia, Nicaragua, Ecuador and Republica Dominicana, and not just Spanish-speaking countries either, but Haiti and Jamaica as well.

As different as we have been taught to look at each other by colonial society, we are in the same struggle and until we realise that, we'll be fighting for scraps from the table of a system that has kept us subservient instead of being self-determined. And that's why we have no control over when the embargo will stop in Cuba, or when the bombs will stop dropping in Vieques.

But you see, here in America the attitude that is fed to us is that outside of America there live lesser people. "F¨²ck them, let them fend for themselves." No, _f¨²ck you_, they _are_ you. No matter how much you want to dye your hair blonde and put fake eyes in, or follow an anorexic standard of beauty, or no matter how many diamonds you buy from people who exploit your own brutally to get them, no matter what kind of car you drive or what kind of fancy clothes you put on, _you will never be them_. They're always gonna look at you as nothing but a little monkey. I'd rather be proud of what I am, rather than desperately try to be something I'm really not, just to fit in. And whether we want to accept it or not, that's what this culture or lack of culture is feeding us.

I want a better life for my family and for my children, but it doesn't have to be at the expense of millions of lives in my homeland. We're given the idea that if we didn't have these people to exploit then America wouldn't be rich enough to let us have these little petty material things in our lives and basic standards of living. No, that's wrong. It's the business giants and the government officials who make all the real money. We have whatever they kick down to us. My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians--those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives--those are the real mother-f¨²ckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know sh¨ªt about the way things are set up.

In fact, I have more in common with most working and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people. As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue. Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie [?] mother-f¨²ckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole.

In other words, I don't want to escape the plantation--I want to come back, free all my people, hang the mother-****er that kept me there and burn the house to the god damn ground. I want to take over the encomienda and give it back to the people who work the land.

You cannot change the past but you can make the future, and anyone who tells you different is a f¨²cking lethargic devil. I don't look at a few token Latinos and black people in the public eye as some type of achievement for my people as a whole. Most of those successful individuals are sell-outs and house Negroes.

But, I don't consider brothers a sell-out if they move out of the ghetto. Poverty has nothing to do with our people. It's not in our culture to be poor. That's only been the last 500 years of our history; look at the last 2000 years of our existence and what we brought to the world in terms of science, mathematics, agriculture and forms of government. You know the idea of a confederation of provinces where one federal government controls the states? The Europeans who came to this country stole that idea from the Iroquois lead. The idea of impeaching a ruler comes from an Aztec tradition. That's why Montezuma was stoned to death by his own people 'cause he represented the agenda of white Spaniards once he was captured, not the Aztec people who would become Mexicans.

So in conclusion, I'm not gonna vote for anybody just 'cause they black or Latino--they have to truly represent the community and represent what's good for all of us proletariat.

[Concluding line in Spanish.]

shaolinstylee
09-13-2004, 01:58 AM
OK, someone said hip - hop lifestyle....

Which lifestyle would this be?

Inner-city?

Poverty?

Drug Dealing?

Pimping?

Whippin' phat rides?

or is it..

Graphin' (legally when possible)?
DJin' (turntablisim)
MCin'
and B-boyin'

just a question...

:p

LeiYunFat
09-13-2004, 07:36 AM
I believe that was me.

Well the hip-hop lifestyle that I wrote down meant expressing yourself by living like ****, doing things just to get by, etc, etc.

But what I meant was really the 'thug life', I think what I was trying to do was try not to sound repetitive.

But yeah, people would tell you that the 'thug life' was those things you mentioned in the first part, Stylee. Mainstream thought now thinks these things to be great or glamorous. It's something that disgusts me.

______________________________________

Those lyrics you posted, Asger, have a righteous cause, but express the wrong view for a situation such as that.

Rich blacks or Latinos shouldn't be chatised for being rich in suspicion they "sold out". I would argue that it is those who move to the ghettos that are selling themselves out. If you're going to raise kids in the ghetto when you can live somewhere better, you are shortchanging yourself by sacrificing your kid's future, and thus, the future of the world. If you retain your sense of inner-strength, not only can you pass this awesome gift onto your kids, but you will not be faltered by selfish pride or the corruption of conformity.

Truth is, that is the kind of world we live in, and you can;t go around huddling around in a corner with only your own people clinging on to something that isn't there, you have to get out and fix things. You're not going to get anything done being massed into a ghetto and **** like that, it just makes it easier for "those in power" to spoon feed all your people crap.

These anarchist lyrics have probably swayed thousands of weak minded individuals to a worthless cause.

--I am speaking of course, on behalf of those who live in America.

Anyways, I can't seem to formulate my thoughts clearly, if you may have noticed, but I gave it a shot.

LeiYunFat
09-13-2004, 08:15 AM
Oh yeah, and about ideas being "stolen". You can't go through world history and say who's was whats and what was whos. If you ask me, I would say that Marco Polo stole noodles from the Chinese; and yet, there is something called "spaghetti" if it were a world that the lyrics wanted, it would be called "fahn keh mein". Or hell, probably "Uhuh Boogah" if that's what the cavemen called it. Everyone is linked some way, because there was never a group of people who came out of the ground like Hawaii did. If you're not going to allow anyone to take credit for something as trivial as credit, then you're just as bad as the system you claim to hate.

lester1/2jr
09-15-2004, 07:02 PM
Shut up, that's a good song. a thousand times better than any horrible christian rock especially. There shouldn't be rules to what people can right about. I like stuff mostly old Mobb Deep, Capone 'n Noriega, and BLack Moon. and I hate alternative rap and especially white rap.

zachsan
09-15-2004, 07:10 PM
well, not many people say they like white rap, but their CD players tell a different story... ;)

lester1/2jr
09-15-2004, 07:11 PM
most of them can't even decide whether they want to sound black or white

LeiYunFat
09-15-2004, 10:39 PM
Eh....I have given up on most mainstream music. I find jazz and intrumentals much more enjoyable.

meattosser
09-21-2004, 07:38 PM
God damn. Haha. Since I'm a pretty huge Hiphophead here, guess I better add my two cents, ha.

lester1/2jr
09-21-2004, 07:48 PM
THe best album ever is Big L "The Big Picture" the one they put together after he died

meattosser
09-21-2004, 08:58 PM
First, just wanna say what's up to all y'all, haven't posted in a while, ha. Anyway, I like what Shaolinstylee said about hip-hop. He actually KNOWS the main elements of hip-hop! Damn, I'm glad for that, I wasn't sure if there were any other raw-headz here.
Hey Asger, I'm glad you heard of Immortal Technique already. Looks like his buzz is getting pretty big now. Some of his songs on Vol. 2 are especially close to him, like "Cause of Death", since he lost a close, personal friend in the towers.

And yes, Hip-hop in the mainstream is pretty disgusting for the most part today, I've already posted about this before. Fortunately there are real dope ass MC's and DJ's out there still, just harder to find since they don't have 24/7 marketing. It does kinda piss me off when someone ignorant says, "hip-hop is about escalades or bling-bling, or mansions." That's a ****in' joke. The VAST MAJORITY of artists in mainstream hip-hop are being pimped/raped by the A&R's or execs. Those fancy cars on TV are mostly rentals. And the jewelry is usually property of the label, NOT the artist. Sleazy piece of **** labels that don't give a flying **** about the music. Pretty much. Hip-hop still lives though. B-boys are still out there, graff (bombing) is still alive, as well as beatboxing, and DJaying (DJ Premier and DJ-JS1 are dope as hell.) Matter of fact, just last July there was a HUGE B-Boy, freestyle battling, and DJ battle Event in Long Beach, CA. 2 straight days of raw hip-hop. Slick Rick, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Wildchild, MURS, Big Daddy Kane, Styelements Crew, to name a few, were gonna be there. I didn't go, but only 'cause I was flat broke. I love hip-hop though. It's a beautiful culture that has united people of ALL races, Black, Latino, White, Asian. To me, hip-hop is a way of life. It's helped me understand and respect other cultures; In the immortal words of KRS-ONE, "...don't be fooled; rap is something you do, HIP-HOP is something you LIVE." Damn right. (Meat then goes out to the street and starts trying to breakdance, but gets quickly maced in the eyes by a scared old couple )

Ha, anyway, for asger and/or anyone else interested, here are some dope hip-hop tracks. E-mail me anytime if you want me to send them to you.

Brother Ali - Room with a View (from Rhymesayers Crew, very dope MC. He's albino too, haha.)
K-OS - B-Boy Stance (check out his new album, Joyful Rebellion, out today. His older LP, EXIT, is good too.)
Technique - Caught in a Hustle (this is Immortal Technique's latest released track.)
2pac - Dear Mamma (Classic. You probably already have this one, heh heh.)
Crayz Walz - '86 (Dope track from Ravipops. Check out his new EP, Black Samurai.)
Royce 5'9" - Hip Hop. (Very nice track produced by DJ Premier.)
Saigon - Kiss the Babies (Check out his compilation, Warning Shots, also has 2 mixtapes from Kayslay, and has his debut LP coming out soon, "Dear Black America".)
Sly Boogy
and Saigon - Ridiculous (this track simply kicks ass. Sly Boogy and Saigon make a damn good combo. ):cool:
Common - I used to love H.E.R. (Another classic.)

meattosser
10-02-2004, 10:44 AM
meattosser@yahoo.com in case y'all were wondering, hahaha...

daodejing
10-02-2004, 06:25 PM
I walk up in the club with an L in my hand, bitches know that I'm a freak like the elephant man...

lester1/2jr
10-02-2004, 07:15 PM
"I've got a dog with a solid gold bone"-Special Ed

meattosser
10-02-2004, 11:58 PM
'cause if you go platinum, it's got nuthin' to do with luck, it just means a million people are stupid as ****!

stuck in the underground, a general, that rose to the limit, without distribution managers a deal or a gimmick, Revolutionary Vol. 2, murder the critics and leave your ****in' body rotten for the roaches and crickets....