911 is a joke

[dogchow108]

then they elect the relative of a past president and hop right back in.

That is interesting though about your friend, forst eye whitness I have ever heard of. Would she be abe to recognize the plane if she saw one now?

[Iron Cross]

Well, the only thing I can say to this is. A close friend of my sisters was living in washington at the time and physically watched the plane fly into the pentagon. Thats right folks. Using her own eyes. You know those round organs on your face. yes! They are more than just decorations. Light traveled 93 million miles or so from the sun, taking about 8 minutes to reach earth, where it then bounced off the plane about to hit the pentagon. This light then entered the eye balls of said witness where it was then processed by the brain.

Hell what am I saying. she must be part of the conspiracy too. She clearly works for the Illuminati to fake 9/11 to hide the fact that aliens were behind the kennedy assassination. Which, in itself was done to prepare the world for 9/11. Which, then allowed the government to start 2 wars and which have really gone nowhere and done nothing except hurt the economy of the world.

I'm sorry what was the government hoping to gain from all this again? In a few months these guys are all out of office. Then what?

[onesp1ng]

the point, doc, is that almost nothing of these planes is ever seen or found. you can do a comparison of boeing crashes yourself. there is typically huge heeps of scrap metal, along with seats, and other materials left behind.

i've travelled extensively in these types of planes. in the pictures below, however, i don't get a trace of anything that really says, "yes, that was a plane crash." yet it's possible for all other pictures i've come across of plane crashes? how?

pic of flight 93 after crash:

pic of flight 77 after crash:

in the pentagon video posted - the only one disseminated to the public - you can't see a plane at all. you've been in them yourself. whether it was going full speed or not, you'd still be able to see it: those things are huge.

[onesp1ng]

flight 93 and flight 77

the pentagon security camera, said to have been hit by a boeing 757:

news coverage of pennsylvania, where the other boeing 757 is said to have crashed:[ame="http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=99rcYiG_Syw&feature=related"]YouTube - 9/11 Flight 93 crash site[/ame]

[ame="http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=-P4x9u_JFMM&feature=related"]YouTube - Crash of United Flight 93 Shanksville 9/11 Terrorist Attacks[/ame]

remember, of all four crashes, not one of the 8 black boxes (two per plane) were ever located - neither those from the twin towers, nor the ones from flights 93 or 77 survived.

[doc]

You lost me. Can you be more specific? Or point me in some sort of direction here?

[onesp1ng]

flight 93

list of the planes that are said to have crashed that day:

2 boeing 767s:

1. American Airlines Flight 11 - Boeing 767-223ER
2. United Airlines Flight 175 - Boeing 767-200ER

2 boeing 757s:

1. American Airlines Flight 77 - Boeing 757-223
2. United Airlines Flight 93 - Boeing 757-200

now do a search for boeing crashes yourself and make a comparison to what was found on 911.

[doc]

No planes?

That's a new one.

I remember being home all day watching it on the tele. I remember seeing planes.

[AlienT3kniX]

HOLOGRAMS

Ahh very intuitive of U,
yes look what china did!

Imagine a black-ops budgeted version of that, one that would be a trigger to conquer a planet?

There is no evidence of ANY planes. Try John Lear on the NPT:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CudLxM04l6A"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CudLxM04l6A[/ame]

[onesp1ng]

i don't know about how true the NPT is. but, just look what china did with the opening ceremony for the olympics.

actually, what hinted to me that it was faked (since i had been to the area many times before), was that there were no people standing outside during the event. they panned back and forth many times, but no one could be seen. this seemed very odd to me. and, in my opinion, it probably would to anyone who knows china well. thus, i was not surprised when the story broke.

[AlienT3kniX]

EXTREME lack of Evidence of planes

One thing WE all should find strangely interesting is the LACK of ANY evidence any planes were ACTUALLY involved.

I KNOW , U SAW IT ON CNN, well so did I , on 9/11/01 to be exact and I video taped it for two weeks 24 hrs a day.
It is called the NPT

the No Planes Theory.

I am not saying towers didn't fall and pentagon didn't get hit by SOMETHING.

I am saying NONE of ANY of the evidence would suggest any REAL planes were involved.

The ONLY rotor was found at the pentagon and it is far more suggestive of a tomahawk cruise missile.

I find it to be an EVIL JOKE that the FBI found passports and Korans at ground zero and 98% DNA of all passengers but NOT A SINGLE ****IN BLACK BOX, engine part , rim /tire, wing but a "terrorist passport" of a man who is still alive and told the FBI , that ain't me, how did U get my passport!

YES 6 of the "hi-jackers" are still alive!

There is no truth to the official story kids, none.

http://www.media-criticism.com/No_Pl...mary_2004.html

[onesp1ng]

1, personally i have no opinion on either direction and i'm willing to hear every piece.

thanks for being open-minded, liu.

maestro, i agree. i think it's an insult to a person's intelligence to say a plane hit the pentagon while using that "video evidence" as proof. i'm staying in the hongkong airport tonight (long story), so i can attest to the fact that airplanes are big, and if one were to hit a building, it probably wouldn't just desintegrate into thin air...lol.

[Maestro]

in part 2 of zeitgeist the engineers and whatnot of the trade towers said that the towers were built to sustain being hit by those aircraft and should not have fallen like that do to fire or heat exnding metal whatever lolo

i think what doc said about if it smells like a dog or whatever then its a dog, i dunno what he said but look at the pentagon attack, WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE, there are a bagillion cameras on the route the plane supposedly followed but we get no footage? none? and then the mysterious tower 7 and then u got the experts in thermodynamics talking about the towers should never have fallen like they did from heat even from a jet etc

it smells like bullshit to me

and then ontop of all that u got that russo guy whatever his name is, the guy that produced ROSE and trading places and all that shit talking about being friends with nicholas rockefeller and how he told him an "event" would happen on the 11th and all kinds of other crazy shit

and thats a credible source who had nothing to gain for himself and is obviously genuine to anyone whos seen his docu about i think its called america from freedom to facism or something, i saw that, has anyone seen that one yet? about the irs and the fed income tax

anyway, its bullshit

imo doc is to old and to brainwashed to ever think the gov would do such a thing or that their capable, either way its pearl harbor all over again, yknow this same thing has been done before, but it is the 2000's now so they gotta go crazy lolo, next time it will be a nuke dropped on shaolin temple lolo

[AlienT3kniX]

WTC -7 the obvious one

And i wouldnt be surprised government and secret agencies made a crazy scenario.

But about tower 7, why would they destroy it on purpose? It seems illogical. If i was an agency i wouldnt make something so strange that people would easily question

first piece of evidence the ultra rich are involved:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2q2mD2HaKA[/ame]


2nd FOX news and others screw up and lie too early:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrEl4Lxok0Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrEl4Lxok0Y[/ame]

Now FOX news official position is WTC-7 fell because of FREAK fire accident.

Third steel structure to fall from FIRE... ever...

THe first two were supposedly WTC 1 & 2 in HISTORY...

Sound fishy? it should...

[liutangsanzang]

BTW, Panda r u somebody who denies the association of USA with the military coup of Pinochet in Chile, 1973/9/11?

[liutangsanzang]

1, personally i have no opinion on either direction and i m willing to hear every piece.

And i wouldnt be surprised government and secret agencies made a crazy scenario.

But about tower 7, why would they destroy it on purpose? It seems illogical. If i was an agency i wouldnt make something so strange that people would easily question.

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