Killing in Afghanistan

[liutangsanzang]

What do you think of killing civilians in Afghanistan? There is no other way? It is good karma?

In Europe there is no death penalty and right for trial and defense. Cant we apply that to that Talibans so as to bring some non violence and state of law instead of war like actions?

What do u think of the situation in Kashmir? Is India violating human rights and right for autodetermination?

Thanks to share ur points of view as to contribute to non violence.

[liutangsanzang]

Maha samaya sutta

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.20.0.than.html

When all these devas with Indras & Brahmas had come,
Mara's army came as well.
Now look at the Dark One's foolishness!
[He said:] "Come seize them! Bind them!
Tie them down with passion!
Surround them on every side!
Don't let anyone at all escape!"
Thus the great war-lord urged on his dark army,
slapping the ground with his hand,
making a horrendous din, as when
a storm cloud bursts with thunder,
lightning, and torrents of rain.
But then he withdrew-enraged,
with none under his sway.
Realizing all this,
the One-with-Vision felt moved to speak.
The Teacher then said to them,
disciples delighting in his instruction,
"Mara's army has approached.
Detect them, monks!"
Listening to the Awakened One's instruction,
they made a diligent effort.
The army retreated
from those without passion,
without raising even a hair on their bodies.
Having all won the battle
— prestigious, past fear —
they rejoice with all beings:
Disciples outstanding among the human race.

[liutangsanzang]

From the political school i graduated in political science in 96.

CERI Program for Peace and Human Security (CPHS)

www.peacecenter.sciences-po.fr __________________________________________________ _________________________

Article Summary:
International Peacemaking in Tajikistan and Afghanistan Compared: Lessons Learned and Unlearned

Les Études du CERI Etude N°143, April 2008 CERI/Sciences Po, Paris, France

Changes in the architecture of international engagements in peacemaking over the last decade can be traced through a comparison of the Peace Accords of 1997 which ended five years of civil war in Tajikistan with the on-going intervention in Afghanistan which began in the context of the global war against terrorism. The comparison points to the challenges that complex interventions face today: the collapse of stabilization, transition and consolidation phases of peacemaking; the lack of clarity about motivations for engagement; the ambiguous methods of state-building and uncertain ownership of peace processes. The success of the externally-led Tajikistan peace process can be attributed to the common search for collaboration between international organizations and regional powers and the gradual sequencing of the different stages: negotiation for power sharing, followed by consolidation, and finally state-building. By contrast, the changing motivations for intervention, the isolation of the Western alliance from regional actors, and the external actors’ own role as parties to war, which provokes escalating reactions, are the potential elements of failure in Afghanistan. Ultimately, it is the national ownership of peace processes that creates the necessary legitimacy for peacemaking to be durable.

[mbokohutu]

In Europe there is no death penalty and right for trial and defense. Cant we apply that to that Talibans so as to bring some non violence and state of law instead of war like actions?

Israelis believe in murder, not law and order.

Israel could arrest any of the people they murder. They like to murder instead.

[liutangsanzang]

I wouldnt like to generalize and say israelis believe in murder.

But i think it is good martial art technique that instead of killing or even hitting and hurting u just stop the other one, bring him to non movement and teach non violence.

In the tibetan bodisatva rules i posted on the budist part of this site it is said a bodisatva should not hit other people.

Peace and love