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[daodejing]

"I can tell you guys know more about chi gong and gong fu than I do, but isn't the importance of chi gong getting OXYGEN into you to help you develop your chi?"

It's a not a purpose, its a beneficial side effect. The importance of qigong in my experience, is to learn how to cultivate, generate, and properly project qi. In this regard, cannabis can help with the initial opening up of energy channels, but like any meditative tool, you must be very careful not to turn it into a crutch. The same goes for alcohol and drunken boxing. In my opinion, alcohol is neccessary at the begining to learn drunken boxing, and as the training progresses being drunk will increase the power of the style in the present moment, but ideally one should be able to give up alcohol forever after a bit, and still be good at drunken boxing. If tools become crutches they can become fetters which tie you down and impede further progress.

In certain styles of zen buddhism, even religion is seen as a tool which must be discarded at the proper time. This is what is meant by the phrase, "if you see the buddha, kill him."

Hmmm, malibu. Good surfing, but too many surfers. Especially at first point............ besides I'm a ketal one with a splash of lime juice kind of guy, can't stand jd. Although I'm happy with almost any vodka that was made outside of new jersey.

[zachsan]

do you like scotch at all? i just split a bottle of seagran's the other night with a friend, and i thought it was pretty good for the price. anyway...

along with dao's suggestion about drinking to learn drunken boxing, when i was in high school i invented a "stoned boxing style" (yeah i know, i'm a genius). it pretty much consisted of taking a swing and then laughing your ass off. it might not sound too effective to you but that's because you don't understand the intricacies of the art.

[dogchow108]

I just choked on my gatorade.

Zachsan- what can i say man, you're just a damn funny guy.

[Levittownhxc]

back to Topic:
At work the other day I came across a four legged stool on the ground with an upended stool on top of it, in a corner. It was more or less stuck in place, so I just started treating it similar to a wing chun dummy.
If nothing else it was interesting to try to spin/trap the top stool with my forearms and use the bottom stool for footwork.

Also, at a job at PSU, I had an L-shaped counter that I would use for fingertip/wrist shoulder dips.

[Greenknight2]

I went outside, my back was feeling none to good after some alot of takedowns in the classes. So I started poking at leaves with my bo staff.

There's a dummy at our school with legs, and it spins. I was thinking it would help, if there was more of a bottom to it use the kicks. That does sound intersting.

Anyone play chess?

It would be cool for this to be a sticky thread.

[Greenknight2]

I really like working on the speed bag. You know it would be intersting to have a sticky bag.

Another thing would be to go out to a baseball kage, and swing baseballs. To remember the number on a ball. That would be interesting.

[LeiYunFat]

Dao-

I see what you mean bout the weed and alcohol and the crutch thing. Very interesting.


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I was reading somewhere on page 4 or 5 about someone who was talking about meditating and having evil enter you, or something.

Well, the thing I do when I meditate is I become AWARE of my thoughts, and I cast out those that are negative or that impede my cincentration. It's interesting that you brought up the fact that you are a Chrisitan, and I don't want to talk about my views on religion, good/bad, etc, but truly, if you meditate on your religion, nothing bad should really happen.

Hmmm....like when people have Lucid Dreaming, there is this creature called Paper Doll that is supposed to invade your dreams and cause them to become lucid nightmares.

If you do not wish it to happen, do not allow it to happen. Many people have conquered Paper Doll, as many have conquered the devil, as many have conquered themselves.

I believe it was said that you must cut down the forest of desires or something like that. Well cut it down. Cut down the forest of your doubt and inhibitions. Te evil you may see may be the evil that is with you. You must squelch it before it grows. Don't allow evil to root onto you. I guess it wouldn't really hurt for you to focus on Jesus. Just Focus on God's light or your inner light to protect you.

But, it could be something with your house or where you meditate. Try to get the energy to flow better in your house, or try to find a better location.


And what I have done multiple times to train-

meditate
weight lift
punch out candles
various drills
variations on drills (ie practicing bo drills with a 15 lb bar)
Sleep.

[Greenknight2]

Well, there cannot be darkness where there is light. You know I think alot of people don't take time to listen. My teacher was talking about mediation. He said, one can at most have up too 60,000 thoughts on average. With training one can get it down too 6,000 thoughts. The less thoughts one has, the more they listen.

Perhaps your right, that there could be evil desires within me. At times, I do not feel respected at the school I'm at. Yet, I wish to finish what I started and earn a black belt there. Within my own family, my sisters are always so negative.

[LeiYunFat]

Well, I might not understand what you are trying to say, but I think there is always some darkness in the light, and there is always some light in the dark.

The yin and the yang, the balance of the universe, etc, etc.

Yeah, to conquer yourself is to conquer life.

Was that the saying?

I think it was,

"Though one were to defeat thousands upon thousands of men in battle, if another were to overcome just one - himself, he is the supreme victor.103
Victory over oneself is better than that over others. When a man has conquered himself and always acts with self-control, neither devas, spirits, Mara or Brahma can reverse the victory of a man like that. 104, 105 "

[Greenknight2]

All, I wish to be is a good steward of what god game me.

[Greenknight2]

By the way, I have heard of googles that give you the stie of being drunk. Anyway, messing around with the pitch fork today digging up, carrots. Also, using a knife too cut off brocoli and some beans.

[Greenknight2]

Lately been gripping a base ball to strengthen my grip. Figure if my hands get stronger, that will help me climb.

[Asger]

Set your sandbag in motion and sit down on the floor to silently, but intesively, watch it until it is completely still.
To realize space, movement and time, you have to imperturbable to them.

[Mike Evans]

and also, to clarify, not all atheists necessarily believe that there could not be a god, but simply that rationally, they have no reason to believe that there is

That would make you Agnostic, not Atheist. An Agnostic is an Atheist who is willing to believe in a god if someone can prove it...

[Mike Evans]

christians and meditating

For all of you out there, meditation is a very christian thing to practice...the Bible is rife with references to meditation. Usually, it is together with prayer (prayer and meditation). If one considers prayer as the asking, then meditation would be the listening to the response. Not very different from what the rest of us are doing