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    Ji Lin Northern Academy

    Hi been looking into to spending some serious training time in China, stumbled acrross this school in Ji Lin province.
    Has anyone trained there or somewhere simliar their website is www.shaolins.com.

    Any info would be great on live in schools in china
    thanks for any help

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    If you click on 'archive' at the top of the screen, that'll take you to the old forum. There was a thread on this school there. Go to 'Shaolin Gong Fu Schools' in the Shaolin section, and the first thread 'Northern China Shaolin Martial Arts Academy' is the one you want.

    GL

    [Maybe Doc can find the page address]

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    It's here:
    Northern China Shaolin academy

    Always remember to search the Archive. That's why we put it there. Tons of information.

    And, funny shit too.....

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    Let me prefix my reply by a few coments about myself.

    I've studied various martial arts for 10 years or so. At least 5 or 6 seriously. I'm 25 years old. I've traveled extensivly and completely independently (I'm currently living in Moscow for a 6 month period.) I have read all the archived information about schools in Shaolin and outside and have found it largely very helpfull.

    I am planning a two month trip to china to study martial arts starting the first week of July. I was planning on the Northern Shao lin martial arts academy. I've heard some good things from people who have been there, and some bad things from others. I am not monetarily commited there so I still could choose an alternate location. The reasons I choose this place is for several reasons
    -the environment seems well suited there for training in July and August, (should I decide to stay into the winter, well I just made it through russian winter and didn't think minus 30 degrees C was that bad).
    -The instructors there "seem" very qualified to teach Shaolin Gong Fu. Being Shaolin temple trained, as well as the body guard of Mao
    -The cost is very reasonable(less than 2 thousand dollars for 2 months)
    -Good recommendations of people who have trained there, however not from very advanced martial artists.

    Basically the cost of the wushu guan and or the school where your(Doc) master resides seem cost prohibitive at 80 dollars a day. This price seems out of line with what things should cost in China. (that works out to be 4800 dollars for 2 months).

    Anyway I suppose I am just asking for advice based on the situation I have given above.

    Thanks

    (if I do go there I will post here on my experience so there is some solid information about this perticular school which seems to be lacking on the internet)

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    I wouldn't be against the idea of finding my own accomidation if there was a way to arrange training with a good sifu before I embarked on my journey.

    I really do want to train hard, and every day, and am very much in favor of traditional Gong Fu over modern WuShu even though I am quite good at the "flying through the air bullshit". I'm not a martial artist for flowerly competitions.

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    I can arrange costs at my master's school at 25 USD a day, including everything.

    The wushu guan no doubt, when it is rebuilt, will be expensive, probably more than 80 USD a day. They're trying to have the only show "in town".

    The one you talk about no doubt will be good training. I'm not sure how much traditiional stuff you'll learn, as opposed to modern competitive wushu, which seems to be in vogue at these places. And, you will be FAR from Shaolin. (There's "more qi in Shaolin...")

    Whichever you choose, it will be an excellent experience.
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    I thought this might be of some interest to you. It is in response to an email I sent the Northern Shaolin Academy asking about the qualifications of their instructors.


    Dear Justin

    The masters si fu in academy are De qian si fu close disciples.They reach 7th degree.List of training is on our homepage.De qian si fu no teach.But he wrote four volumes book of Shao lin secret gong fu.This is 95% of shao lin gong fu in past thousands years.That we still keep on trianing as we did.



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    This seems to me to be a very good thing. This makes sense as well considering this is the same area that De Qian spent a large portion of his life in. This information is on their homepage as well.

    Oh yah, and when you say "everything" do you mean lodging and food would be included as well for 25 dollars a day?

    thanks
    Last edited by Elrond; 06-01-2003 at 12:38 PM.

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    Li Peng's father , Zhang Jian Shu - doc know's him as well- is still teaching the traditional stuff. If You follow this link : http://www.americaneuropeanshaolin.c...intraining.htm You can find more info. The 450 US$ a month is all inclusive. But remember there are no 'modern facilities' there !! No shower, western toilet, internet,....

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    The masters si fu in academy are De qian si fu close disciples.They reach 7th degree.List of training is on our homepage.De qian si fu no teach.But he wrote four volumes book of Shao lin secret gong fu.This is 95% of shao lin gong fu in past thousands years.That we still keep on trianing as we did.
    Seventh degree what? Let's get something straight here. The whole degree thing in ranks is a Japanese thing, not a Chinese one. To me, that comment just detracts from the "genuineness" of their whole training thing. And DeQian has his own school, in Dengfeng, near Shaolin. Just because they're disciples doesn't mean that your training experience is going to be the same as training with DeQian. These disciples could be twenty year old coaches, who have no monk experience whatsoever. (Hell, to make this point, I'm a disciple....lol) Read through the bullshit man. And, DeQian did not spend a large portion of his life in that area. He traveled a lot, through western China, to escape the horrors of the Cultural Revolution. I've spent a "large" portion of my life in Shaolin (cumulatively, about a year or so), but, in reality, was it really a "large" part of my life? (Experience wise, yes, actual time wise, no). Read through the bullshit.

    You would be better off with Li Peng's father. Now that would be an experience. Just don't let him do any of his "Shaolin medicine" on you, lol.
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    The whole reason I'm here is because I am not an expert on the Shaolin stuff. I've studied martial arts for 10 years but no Kung Fu. I figure I've been studying all this other stuff I might as well go to the source. It's a bit difficult to read through the bullshit when every system I've studied under does have degrees . I'm sending him a reply and asking degrees of what just as you have said. Perhaps he'll have a good explanation.... perhaps not.

    As I've said before I'm looking for the absolute best experience I can find. I want to be pushed further than I have been pushed before. I'm going all the way to china, I want to get the best possible experience I can. I have no delusions of monk hood. I'm far too much of an individualist to make that good of a Buddhist anyway.

    Part of the reason of considering the Northern Shaolin Academy is its in an area not hit very much by SARS. Henan is a little more based on the information I have here.

    Anyway, that's the kind of response I was looking for. Thanks

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