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  • The geniuses in Hollywood.

    I thought that this was pretty well written. Thanks to Eddy for this gem. It's definitely worth repeating:

    Who's Smarter?
    by Cindy Osborne

    The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid" , "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.

    So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:

    President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other than Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)

    Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our >economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.

    Secretary of State Colin Powell: Educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country. (Note: He retired as Four Star General in the United States Army)

    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77.

    Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.

    National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain
    Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984).

    She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she resides in Washington, D.C.

    So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:

    Barbra Streisand : Completed high school Career: Singing and acting

    Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade. Career: Singing and acting

    Martin Sheen: Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton. Career: Acting

    Jessica Lange: Dropped out college mid-freshman year. Career: Acting

    Alec Baldwin: Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal. Career: Acting

    Julia Roberts: Completed high school. Career: Acting

    Sean Penn: Completed High school. Career: Acting

    Susan Sarandon: Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C. Career: Acting

    Ed Asner; Completed High school. Career: Acting

    George Clooney: Dropped out of University of Kentucky. Career: Acting

    Michael Moore: Dropped out first year University of Michigan. Career: Movie Director

    Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School. Career: Acting

    Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School. Career: Acting

    Mike Farrell: Completed High school. Career: Acting

    Janeane Garofelo: Dropped out of College. Career: Stand up comedienne

    Larry Hagman: Attended Bard College for one year. Career: Acting

    While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.

    These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed, by freedom-hating terrorists, while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.

    Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.

    So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?

    The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!

    It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this >nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.

    Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regi me. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan... PEACE through STRENGTH.


    What's sad, is that the general population actually looks up to these Hollywood people, enough to respect their opinions and follow their lead....

    doc
    Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

    "You're just a jaded cynical mother****er...." Jeffpeg

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  • #2
    well..

    well..for one thing bush really isnt that bright

    maybe in his younger years when he wasnt doing so much crack...but he is pretty..stupid, somewhat anyway

    i do understand that his job is probably one of the most streesful jobs on the planet..and he does have alot of responsiblity..but the more i think about how much work they do and how hard it must be..i begin to think why presidents always want to go for a second term..i mean these are pretty old guys and the amount of stress and pressure and all that youd think they were going through..you would assume they would have had enough after 4 years..but i dunno..

    as for the celebs..who really gives a damn, the only reason we get to here what they say is because it makes headlines and headlines make money, when it comes down to it they all just want to stick their nose in the camera so they can get more money, more publicity..more movie offers bla bla..it comes down to money imo anyway

    and probably the same for political leaders...

    btw has anyone seen this tape?

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/store/videos.html#911

    its really good, and the guy who made it is really smart and hes done his homework imo

    its pretty long, i caught most of it on tv once and i couldnt stop watching, this guy pulls out some crazzy stuff..

    but anyway that was pretty well written..even though its a bit to patriotic and biased..it was still nice to read heheh
    "did you ask me to consider dick with you??" blooming tianshi lotus

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    • #3
      What baffles me is that all that is just common sense and it just goes over so many people's heads.

      All these activists are just blind to some of the plain facts.

      I've also wondered why anyone would so eagerly want all the stress and responsibility of being president.

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      • #4
        I think that the point of this little commentary, is not so much that our beloved Hollywood heros and heroines are not as smart as George Bush (my own impression, is that he's had a gifted life, definitely more a success because of his membership in the lucky sperm club, and less because of his own abilities, which, quite ironically, tends to put him more in the Hollywood group than the intelligentsia group). The sad commentary that this little dialogue makes, is that we as a society tend to place more value on things that provide entertainment for us, than on things that are necessary and important, like, education, reseach, and teaching, all things which make our society progress and grow stronger.

        It's sad, when some high school dropout movie star, with a seventh grade vocabulary, can make much more money in one easily done movie, than ten PhD's can make in a lifetime.
        Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

        "You're just a jaded cynical mother****er...." Jeffpeg

        (more comments in my User Profile)
        russbo.com


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        • #5
          life is sad sometimes..

          life is sad sometimes..its sad that people without health insurance get screwed..royalely screwed..

          its sad hardworking immigrants work for pennies, espcially when most put it 10x more work then the average working man(espcially construction workers)

          its unfortunate that 50k + colleges offer the 'best' education at such high prices and usually only for name recognition

          lots of stuff sucks but im not gonna knock some celeb for making money, its not like its all that easy to get into show biz..but its not like its all that hard in comparison to other things, but the point is....

          bush is a member of a secret society called the skulls and he bought his way through life..ahhhhhhh

          ok im done
          "did you ask me to consider dick with you??" blooming tianshi lotus

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          • #6
            I just loved this....
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            Experienced Community organizer. Yeah, let's choose him to run the free world. It will be historic. What could possibly go wrong...

            "You're just a jaded cynical mother****er...." Jeffpeg

            (more comments in my User Profile)
            russbo.com


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            • #7
              Bla bla bla. Doesnt the fact that the majority of them believe in God say enough..

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              • #8
                Politics is politics..... hollywood is politics, just to a different extreme...
                Too many people on way too far ends of the spectrum clash, this is what you get. Super liberals versus the conservative crowd... makes for interesting conversation....

                Doc, how many of your "friends" do you think voted for Bush?
                practice wu de

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                • #9
                  thats an interesting article doc. I for one odnt think ANYONE in the government does not have a good iq. But theres also other sides to the story as well that werent reported on CNN and other things, which makes everything a bit more murky. some of it is real sad

                  the world is all buggered up

                  dave
                  simple and natural is my method,
                  true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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                  • #10
                    somewhat of a rant...

                    Working for the government I get an interesting perspective of things. I push a lot of paper for some simple things, and watch as it doesn't go through, even though we have a 100 million dollar budget for a project, doesn't mean that they'll let us get some $10,000 software that would save us $6,000 on this project alone. Eventualy (conservative figures show) $18,000. Dealing with this type of stuff can be frustrating, as looking at it idealy, however, sometimes we must look at things a bit more realisticly for the time, as budgets get cut etc. Hollywood types have luxeries that allow them to think they can follow an issue closely, and get all the "facts." I've worked for, and dealt with many, many environmental groups (and the like)....too many times there facts are not facts at all, but fragments that push there agenda, where as I am sure there are things from the other spectrum that would fall into the same category (ala the leftist view of the war). It just sucks that a lot of these people think that they are right, when neither is telling the whole truth. Some of the truth is best kept hidden, for it is not needed by the general public. In the same right, the powers that be need to explain (however redundant it may seem) that there are reasons that this information can not be public if it is deemed so. Same goes for any public interest group, evironmental group, etc. They need to be more forward with there information. Too many people buy into things hook line and sinker when presented with a side of the story, especialy when it hits there "heart." Even just presenting them with the other side of the coin can be a daunting task, which is why some of these people seem so extreme in there political views. I don't agree with all that the current establishment is doing, but I think it could be a lot worse. I've had both an inside and outside look at both sides, and have decided only one thing..... choose your own agendas, and support them, no matter the party or affiliation.

                    sorry rant over
                    practice wu de

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                    • #11
                      something that really shocked me as a graphic designer: here

                      dave
                      simple and natural is my method,
                      true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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                      • #12
                        Editor:
                        Here, make this fill up the front page.

                        Photo guy:
                        UM, OK......

                        IN other room
                        damn, this thing is small, going to have to blow it up, oh, that looks like crap. Maybe if I put this here, that there, etc. there we go...now it will fit the front page...

                        That is another completely likely senario, along with a million others.

                        there were a lot of people there, none the less. I think they are blowing this out of proportion somewhat.
                        practice wu de

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                        • #13
                          yeah but like... dont you think thats slightly unethical and propaganda? Also i will see if i can fidnt he link but it shows that square was not exactly full of people too. it may have something to do with there being 3 US tanks around the outside of it

                          kinda funny,
                          dave
                          simple and natural is my method,
                          true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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                          • #14
                            bit hard to tell on this pic

                            just showing another viewpoint

                            The up close action video of the statue being destroyed is broadcast around the world as proof of a massive uprising. Still photos grabbed off of Reuters show a long-shot view of Fardus Square... it's empty save for the U.S. Marines, the International Press, and a small handful of Iraqis.
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                            simple and natural is my method,
                            true and sincere is my principle --Tse Sigung

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                            • #15
                              here's a link for you guys, pretty interesting, and makes bush sr. look like an saint....okay, not really, just read...

                              http://www.zhongwen.com/bush/index.html

                              funny this is on a chinese dictionary website, uggghhh....

                              -paz
                              -Jesse Pasleytm
                              "How do I know? Because my sensei told me!"

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