fareheit 9/11 review - Roger Ebert

[doc]

No mullet man. Sorry to disappoint you.

[meattosser]

No mullet? Nooo! Damn Doc, you were my hero, but now, well, I just... I just don't know... lol....

[dogchow108]

Originally posted by lester1/2jr
... there are less liberal guys out there in the media and many many conservitive ones...

???

what island are you living on?

[zachsan]

meat man, i already said i'm not gettin into the politics. i don't remember whether the guy was an employee or captain or what, he obviously didn't know what he was talking about either way. and to use that poor bastard as a spokesperson for america and then show all the reasons he's wrong is kind of a cheap shot anyway. but what i was talking about was that "while the children are sleeping" line. that's just funny ****, man.

[doc]

I think Moore is a bit more relevant in a way because there are less liberal guys out there in the media and many many conservitive ones, so he's reltively unique.

Few liberal people in the media? When was the last time you watched CNN? God, it's pitiful.

[shaolinstylee]

doc beat me to it....


most of the news networks in fact.

[zachsan]

i think a little criticism of the media on specific points is healthy, but i get wary of people like rush limbaugh or michael moore who are constantly talking about the "liberal media" or the "conservative media" to prove their points.

it seems to me like a shortcut to making actual valid points. that is, if you can adequately convince a guy that everything he sees, hears or reads is propaganda, you could get him to pretty much forget everything he's seen, heard or read, and then replace it with whatever dogma you're selling. in fact, i think that relying on either broad characterization of the media is the surest sign of political bias.

[meattosser]

Nice reply Zachsan...


The best thing to say I guess is to stay strong and keep and open mind.

[mortal]

Zachsan That was a good post.

In reality the news media and hollywood are mostly very liberal. That is pretty much just fact at this point.

[lester1/2jr]

dogchow and doc- I don't mean the actual numbers of liberals and conservitives. I mean Sean Hannity is one of a number of those types of guys, conservitive radio guys. Not that he's not distinct, just that it 's easier to lose him in the shuffle, whereas Michael Moore makes these movies and comes from the far left and oh forget it

[zachsan]

mortal - it is accepted fact among conservatives that the news media is largely liberal, and it's an accepted fact that the news media is largely conservative among liberals. anyway, i was talking about the news media. i'm not really counting hollywood into this whole equation, because, while it's largely liberal, it's also got lots of scientologists. i think that should just kinda disqualify it from intelligent conversation.

[shaolinstylee]

I just like how much the media, complains about the media...

I listen to talk radio, get sick of it a lot of the time because of the conservative guys who are in the media, blasting the media (meaning the media on the left).

[mortal]

Are you saying it is a fifty-fifty split? The media is mostly liberal. I don't think you have a leg to stand on here.

[zachsan]

well you're right, i don't really have anything to support my previously stated opinions about the media, because i never previously stated any opinions about the media. hehe...

my point is not that our media is wonderful, neutral and 100% objective, or split down the middle, but that i'm skeptical of those that make broad generalizations about it. that's all i said.

[lester1/2jr]

michal moore is a bigger celebrity than Sean hannity. Can we agree on that?