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Here's what I would do. Find something to talk to her father about. Strike up a conversation with him. Then go for her number and walk away. All you need is a few seconds to get the magical digits. Also, don't try and know her life story. Just find how to contact her. Ask for her email, and if she doesn't, well just say you talk her phone number too.
Your appearance, nice clean shaven, presentable, but not like your going for an interview.
I think it's also the confidence factor too with when your with a woman your confidence goes up. Hey are you going out with that girl yet? If not what's the harm with talking to her.
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