Doc, There is a misunderstanding about who I was talking about. I was not talking about Shi De Cheng. I know and understand him very well by his reputation and the fact that he is a shaolin brother to my uncle in law Shi De Qian. I was talking about a particular academy head master in the northern part of China. (which I will not name!) It was directed to a particular person (who I will not name). They got the meassage and all is well. If you really want the gory ugly details I will send you a private email. Lets just say that some how someone thought that the shaolin community was a very small and very stupid lot of people and that what they spoke publically was not seen or watched by those who would be impacted by them.
The visa issues was a reverse issue. Not about going to america but actually for a student coming here to china.
ok.. I will give you a brief overview of the situation...
You have a school and you get an email and a potential student says Hey I want to train with you. You say okay when are you coming and how long you staying. They say 5 years and they want to learn and train so they can open a school and teach in their country. Then as time goes on they ask tons of questions. You answer as best you can. Then with all this new found information they decide they no longer want to train with you they want to open a school down the street from you and want to take your oldest and best master to his school and he tells you he is going to do this.
The head master of that school has tons of friends at the police and visa offices that is how he manages to produce visa's for his students. So do you think that this head master will allow this to happen in his back yard. No he will not. So in a polite way I was trying to help someone udnerstand the politics in China. Just like you speak about the visa issues and the politics of going to America I too understand that process but I also have lived here in China for 3 years and understand a great deal of the politics and the smallness of the community under the shaolin umbrella. What ever happens in someones back yard here in China we always know about. It gets through the grape vines faster than the water here in china goes through your body.
SO I do aplogize if there was a misunderstanding for you but the particular person that needed to understand it did and I had confirmation of that. I thank y ou for t he forum you have that allows us to speak honestly and upfront about things.
I have my own stories of getting an immigration visa for my husband. He is Shi Xing Ming and he is the nephew of Shi De Qian. So I am very familar with what you must go through. It is not any easier to get immigration papers for your chinese husband even if you are an american citizen. It has been a year since i started the process and it is not finished as of yet. We still have not finished the INTERVIEW! It has been expensive to get all the documentation for the chinese citizen as well. They do not issue things like birth certificates and things at birth. YOu must do that and have it translated into english which they charge you 5 times more than the regualr service! We could compare notes sometime! We have a school here in Deng Feng that we teach foreignors at and we deal with some of the issues with visas as well. But Henan Deng Feng is one of the places that will help you less than any other place. This probably all doesnt make a bit of sense to you but thats okay. What you are to understand you will and what you are not to understand you wont. That is the way of the path. I accept that and live by it. IN the wake of your presence much good is done and the promotion of shaolin has been huge and you are to be recognized for that. Thank you
I must take leave I bow to all. Amitoufou Shi Xing Ruei
The visa issues was a reverse issue. Not about going to america but actually for a student coming here to china.
ok.. I will give you a brief overview of the situation...
You have a school and you get an email and a potential student says Hey I want to train with you. You say okay when are you coming and how long you staying. They say 5 years and they want to learn and train so they can open a school and teach in their country. Then as time goes on they ask tons of questions. You answer as best you can. Then with all this new found information they decide they no longer want to train with you they want to open a school down the street from you and want to take your oldest and best master to his school and he tells you he is going to do this.
The head master of that school has tons of friends at the police and visa offices that is how he manages to produce visa's for his students. So do you think that this head master will allow this to happen in his back yard. No he will not. So in a polite way I was trying to help someone udnerstand the politics in China. Just like you speak about the visa issues and the politics of going to America I too understand that process but I also have lived here in China for 3 years and understand a great deal of the politics and the smallness of the community under the shaolin umbrella. What ever happens in someones back yard here in China we always know about. It gets through the grape vines faster than the water here in china goes through your body.
SO I do aplogize if there was a misunderstanding for you but the particular person that needed to understand it did and I had confirmation of that. I thank y ou for t he forum you have that allows us to speak honestly and upfront about things.
I have my own stories of getting an immigration visa for my husband. He is Shi Xing Ming and he is the nephew of Shi De Qian. So I am very familar with what you must go through. It is not any easier to get immigration papers for your chinese husband even if you are an american citizen. It has been a year since i started the process and it is not finished as of yet. We still have not finished the INTERVIEW! It has been expensive to get all the documentation for the chinese citizen as well. They do not issue things like birth certificates and things at birth. YOu must do that and have it translated into english which they charge you 5 times more than the regualr service! We could compare notes sometime! We have a school here in Deng Feng that we teach foreignors at and we deal with some of the issues with visas as well. But Henan Deng Feng is one of the places that will help you less than any other place. This probably all doesnt make a bit of sense to you but thats okay. What you are to understand you will and what you are not to understand you wont. That is the way of the path. I accept that and live by it. IN the wake of your presence much good is done and the promotion of shaolin has been huge and you are to be recognized for that. Thank you
I must take leave I bow to all. Amitoufou Shi Xing Ruei
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