About 6 weeks ago I finally had the money and the time to join www.roninathletics.com.
I feel like I have been reborn martially. My stand up is very good but that is about it. lol I knew nothing about wrestling or BJJ. Once in the clinch or on the ground I found myself in constant trouble. It could be the guys I'm working with are in their 20's and I'm 36. Or it could be the fact that many of them are ex college/hs wrestlers. Even a couple of actual power lifters. lol
What's funny is they don't just abuse you the way they could. They let you work, they put on submissions slowy. They teach as you work. Sometimes they will stop explain what they just did and start over. They will even let you mount and then buck you off and smoothly throw on some submission. Since I have been there I only tapped out a guy once. He got too comfy leaned in his head and I slapped on an amatuer guillotine choke and got him back in full gaurd. He admitted he shouldn't have leaned in and gave me full credit for the submission. I on the other hand have been tapped out quite a bit. lol The guys there are cool because they just want truth in what works the best. I didn't want to mention that I train wushu. Then when we were kicking the pads during a kickboxing class a coulpe of the coaches laughed and said did you ever do this before? lol I said I trained kung fu a little. They said it felt/sounded like you trained a lot. lol Also the head teacher said I had good body mechanics. I found that interesting. I took it as a high compliment. My teacher is a brazilian jui jitsu brown belt under the Machado brothers and a purple belt under Matt thornton. This guy is a high level athlete with mma fights under his belt going back to 1999.
I don't want to start a negative argument but most kung fu lacks any real wrestling or groundwork. I saw some terrible wrestling at the kung fu tourneys I've been to. Terrible wingchun too. lolo Now I know there are good chinese kung fu styled wrestlers out there but they are few and far between. That shouldn't be for any fighting art. If someone is a good wrestler and you have barely any in your kung fu curriculum you will get taken right down and submitted. I don't care how good your stand up is. If you can't sprawl or have the knowledge of what to do to counter you will be in big trouble. In some levels I feel I have been short changed by chinese kung fu. It only has the answers for stand up.
Why do the chinese leave out one of the most important parts of fighting? Is it cultural? Don't give me the old MMA wouldn't work in the army crap either. lol
Some people myself included think that mma stand up isn't that good. I figured out why. The more important things to be good at are wrestling and bjj. It is actually easier and more consistent to throw someone on the floor and tap them out. Then it is to knock someone out standing up.
Opinions? Questions? Concerns? lol
I feel like I have been reborn martially. My stand up is very good but that is about it. lol I knew nothing about wrestling or BJJ. Once in the clinch or on the ground I found myself in constant trouble. It could be the guys I'm working with are in their 20's and I'm 36. Or it could be the fact that many of them are ex college/hs wrestlers. Even a couple of actual power lifters. lol
What's funny is they don't just abuse you the way they could. They let you work, they put on submissions slowy. They teach as you work. Sometimes they will stop explain what they just did and start over. They will even let you mount and then buck you off and smoothly throw on some submission. Since I have been there I only tapped out a guy once. He got too comfy leaned in his head and I slapped on an amatuer guillotine choke and got him back in full gaurd. He admitted he shouldn't have leaned in and gave me full credit for the submission. I on the other hand have been tapped out quite a bit. lol The guys there are cool because they just want truth in what works the best. I didn't want to mention that I train wushu. Then when we were kicking the pads during a kickboxing class a coulpe of the coaches laughed and said did you ever do this before? lol I said I trained kung fu a little. They said it felt/sounded like you trained a lot. lol Also the head teacher said I had good body mechanics. I found that interesting. I took it as a high compliment. My teacher is a brazilian jui jitsu brown belt under the Machado brothers and a purple belt under Matt thornton. This guy is a high level athlete with mma fights under his belt going back to 1999.
I don't want to start a negative argument but most kung fu lacks any real wrestling or groundwork. I saw some terrible wrestling at the kung fu tourneys I've been to. Terrible wingchun too. lolo Now I know there are good chinese kung fu styled wrestlers out there but they are few and far between. That shouldn't be for any fighting art. If someone is a good wrestler and you have barely any in your kung fu curriculum you will get taken right down and submitted. I don't care how good your stand up is. If you can't sprawl or have the knowledge of what to do to counter you will be in big trouble. In some levels I feel I have been short changed by chinese kung fu. It only has the answers for stand up.
Why do the chinese leave out one of the most important parts of fighting? Is it cultural? Don't give me the old MMA wouldn't work in the army crap either. lol
Some people myself included think that mma stand up isn't that good. I figured out why. The more important things to be good at are wrestling and bjj. It is actually easier and more consistent to throw someone on the floor and tap them out. Then it is to knock someone out standing up.
Opinions? Questions? Concerns? lol
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