I was asked to post this, in order that the individuals remain anonymous. It presents a side of the Yantai school that most people won't see. And, in my opinion, demonstrates the typical behavior that you find with some of these Chinese and their schools, both in China, and elsewhere.
It's an interesting read. I have changed the names of the people messaging; the names of the Chinese individuals remain the original.
It's an interesting read. I have changed the names of the people messaging; the names of the Chinese individuals remain the original.
Che is the owner of Siping.
Su is the owner of Yantai (he used to be a master at Siping before).
Qu is a master from Yantai who comes to the school to teach.
Wei is a master from Siping, but now is at Yantai.
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[16:45] POOPEY: ok.. hey, how is Su calculating refunds? i bet it's the same system as in Siping.. monthly, and if you stay 1 day of next month, you have to pay for the whole month
[16:46] BUBBA BOO: I think so yes
[16:46] BUBBA BOO: First couple months are alot than the last 6 are in the houndreds
[16:47] POOPEY: so it's a money trap
[16:47] POOPEY: once you're there, with "administration fees" and such, you're gonna leave all your money there either way
[16:47] BUBBA BOO: Yeah hes got it set up pretty well
[16:48] POOPEY: dont give him credit though, he got this money laundring system from Che
[16:48] BUBBA BOO: With the 50 dollar cab fair. He even charges two people each 50 dollars for the same ride
[16:48] POOPEY: no ****ing way!
[16:48] POOPEY: lol
[16:48] BUBBA BOO: People that come in pairs of two even pay each 50
[16:49] POOPEY: so if 4 people arrive at the same day, they pay $200 to him for what costs $8-10?
[16:49] BUBBA BOO: This is what Qu was angry about, he got alot of kids refunds
[16:49] BUBBA BOO: Yes
[16:49] POOPEY: sick man
[16:50] POOPEY: i've been throwing this idea around of opening a martial arts school.. it's a sound idea, but of course it will have to wait until i learn Chinese fluently and earn enough money in other ways
[16:51] BUBBA BOO: What kind martial art?
[16:51] POOPEY: any kind of biz like this requires some dough.. Su basically scammed all his first students to rent the factory building that you're in now
[16:51] BUBBA BOO: Did they get there money back?
[16:51] POOPEY: ma along the lines of muay thai, sanda, something more straight forward
[16:51] POOPEY: no man haha, money back you're kidding
[16:52] BUBBA BOO: Un****ingbelievbly
[16:52] POOPEY: here is what Su did (in detail, so give me a min):
[17:04] POOPEY: he used to teach Taiji at Siping, where he got this idea to open his own school and be so rich like Che Wen Long (owner of Siping). He found a nice place in Yantai, and came back to recruit as many students as he could (secretly of course) to go with him to the "new school" that he supposedly just opened. He took Wei with him because they were always friendly, plus Wei knew many students. They went together to Yantai, but only to visit because t had no furniture, electricity, water, etc., plus Su didn't buy it yet cause he had no cash. So he put everyone in a really poor and shitty Qigong school near LiaoCheng (in west Shandong). Basically he knew the old owner, who i don't think even took the money from Su for letting them stay there. Most students were like "wtf? i'm outta here" and took money with them. Others went home and left all their money with Su either because they're too nice or he told them he would teach them for free if they come to China again. It wasn't enough dough (he needed something like $30,000) so he emailed all students he knew before and told Wei to do the same. Basically tricking us all to come to a shitty place and bring him enough money to buy the building in Yantai... Since LiaoCheng to Yantai he covered us with enough bullshit to last us a lifetime.. and i have NO idea why we didn't just make like a tree from there. Like i said, we were just too stupid. The end
[17:09] POOPEY: oh and also.. there was an English guy who was going to be his "private investor" and make him a website and advertise it etc. It was some student we knew from Siping (that guy was actually a criminal). They were planning to expand and such, and the guys even gave Su $5000. They were driving around Yantai for a couple weeks, looking for a piece of land. Then the guy realized that Su was trying to **** him (he wanted to write the land papers in his name, and let the English guy pay for it). So he bailed and Su didn't return him the $5000 of course, saying that "it's his training fee for 2 weeks." LOL! I could tell you a story about Siping, which is just as ridiculous.
Su is the owner of Yantai (he used to be a master at Siping before).
Qu is a master from Yantai who comes to the school to teach.
Wei is a master from Siping, but now is at Yantai.
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[16:45] POOPEY: ok.. hey, how is Su calculating refunds? i bet it's the same system as in Siping.. monthly, and if you stay 1 day of next month, you have to pay for the whole month
[16:46] BUBBA BOO: I think so yes
[16:46] BUBBA BOO: First couple months are alot than the last 6 are in the houndreds
[16:47] POOPEY: so it's a money trap
[16:47] POOPEY: once you're there, with "administration fees" and such, you're gonna leave all your money there either way
[16:47] BUBBA BOO: Yeah hes got it set up pretty well
[16:48] POOPEY: dont give him credit though, he got this money laundring system from Che
[16:48] BUBBA BOO: With the 50 dollar cab fair. He even charges two people each 50 dollars for the same ride
[16:48] POOPEY: no ****ing way!
[16:48] POOPEY: lol
[16:48] BUBBA BOO: People that come in pairs of two even pay each 50
[16:49] POOPEY: so if 4 people arrive at the same day, they pay $200 to him for what costs $8-10?
[16:49] BUBBA BOO: This is what Qu was angry about, he got alot of kids refunds
[16:49] BUBBA BOO: Yes
[16:49] POOPEY: sick man
[16:50] POOPEY: i've been throwing this idea around of opening a martial arts school.. it's a sound idea, but of course it will have to wait until i learn Chinese fluently and earn enough money in other ways
[16:51] BUBBA BOO: What kind martial art?
[16:51] POOPEY: any kind of biz like this requires some dough.. Su basically scammed all his first students to rent the factory building that you're in now
[16:51] BUBBA BOO: Did they get there money back?
[16:51] POOPEY: ma along the lines of muay thai, sanda, something more straight forward
[16:51] POOPEY: no man haha, money back you're kidding
[16:52] BUBBA BOO: Un****ingbelievbly
[16:52] POOPEY: here is what Su did (in detail, so give me a min):
[17:04] POOPEY: he used to teach Taiji at Siping, where he got this idea to open his own school and be so rich like Che Wen Long (owner of Siping). He found a nice place in Yantai, and came back to recruit as many students as he could (secretly of course) to go with him to the "new school" that he supposedly just opened. He took Wei with him because they were always friendly, plus Wei knew many students. They went together to Yantai, but only to visit because t had no furniture, electricity, water, etc., plus Su didn't buy it yet cause he had no cash. So he put everyone in a really poor and shitty Qigong school near LiaoCheng (in west Shandong). Basically he knew the old owner, who i don't think even took the money from Su for letting them stay there. Most students were like "wtf? i'm outta here" and took money with them. Others went home and left all their money with Su either because they're too nice or he told them he would teach them for free if they come to China again. It wasn't enough dough (he needed something like $30,000) so he emailed all students he knew before and told Wei to do the same. Basically tricking us all to come to a shitty place and bring him enough money to buy the building in Yantai... Since LiaoCheng to Yantai he covered us with enough bullshit to last us a lifetime.. and i have NO idea why we didn't just make like a tree from there. Like i said, we were just too stupid. The end
[17:09] POOPEY: oh and also.. there was an English guy who was going to be his "private investor" and make him a website and advertise it etc. It was some student we knew from Siping (that guy was actually a criminal). They were planning to expand and such, and the guys even gave Su $5000. They were driving around Yantai for a couple weeks, looking for a piece of land. Then the guy realized that Su was trying to **** him (he wanted to write the land papers in his name, and let the English guy pay for it). So he bailed and Su didn't return him the $5000 of course, saying that "it's his training fee for 2 weeks." LOL! I could tell you a story about Siping, which is just as ridiculous.
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