Amitabha
My name is Shi Heng Zhi (Peter Pearson Traub, Jr., Esq.), and I am a disciple of Shifu Shi Yan Ming, and a brother to Shi Heng Yi, a/k/a "Iron Cross". It is with sadness I have read Iron Cross's posts here and on Shaolinwolf.com (both are identical). I have joined this group to provide this one account of the true facts on the evening Yi (iron cross) passed out. Once I have done this, I will not return or read any response.
Since, as Yi admits, he passed out, he should hear the truth about the evening in question from the brother who was there, who comforted him, made sure he was okay, drove him in his car to my restaurant to feed him, and offered him assistance, advice, and a place to sleep that night if he could not drive the 2 hours to his home.
Heng Yi (iron cross) lost consciousness due to over exertion that night. He had a petite mal seizure. Everyone should know I have studied medicine for the past 25 years in my capacity as a medical malpractice trial attorney, as well as having direct experience with friends, family members, and clients who have seizure disorders. His seizure lasted about 10 seconds. Shifu stopped class immediately and gave us instructions on how to assist Yi. I got my towel and made a pillow for Yi. Heng Ming sat at his head with cool water to bring his temperature down. Two other students cooled him with wet towels behind his knees. Shifu instructed the rest of class to stay away so that Yi could get some air to breath. Shifu then sat by his disciple monitoring his condition for 10 to 15 minutes, before being sure Yi was okay.
It is true we wear light weight uniforms while we train. They are not made of the heavy uniforms many other martial arts disciplines use, as the temple's uniforms are made out of nylon. It is true Shifu was practicing forms privately in the back with the curtain drawn. There were only 15 - 20 of us in the front of the temple (2,000 square feet of space) where two large loft sized windows were open. It is true it was hot. It was the summer.
It is also true that Yi had passed out several times in my presence training in the summer, winter, spring and fall. Yi has passed out wearing the full light weight nylon uniform, and he has passed out wearing a vest and a tee shirt. He has passed out when it has been hot at the temple. He has passed out when it has been cold at the temple.
Yi has an underlying medical condition trigger by the rise in his body heat, regardless of the temperature outside. On every occasion that Yi passes out, he has taken all the necessary time to rest and recover. Yi is an intelligent adult who has the means to obtain whatever medical attention he needs. I do not know if Yi has ever seen a doctor following any of his fainting spells. As one who used to suffer from similar spells when I was young, I have advised Yi to seek medical attention on prior occasions as well as on the night in question.
Once Shifu was sure Yi was okay, and not in need of emergent medical attention, he walked away and told me that Yi’s condition was triggered by his body heat.
I then drove Yi in his car to my restaurant while we talked about the car's handling ability. Yi seemed to be in full control of his senses. Once at my restaurant I treated my brother to a meal so that he could recover his strength. I offered to allow Yi to stay at my home that night in the city, rather than let him drive two hours to his parent’s house out at the end of Long Island.
Yi graciously refused my offer, assuring me he was fine. He drove 2 hours home that night without incident. Yi was as correct in knowing he could drive home safely that night, as Shifu was in knowing Yi did not need an ambulance.
I told Yi during dinner that he had a petite mal seizure, and that he ought to see a neurologist. I do not know if Yi has to this date taken my advice. I do know that at no time did he need an ambulance, and if he ever thought he did, I would have been happy to take him to the hospital for treatment, rather than to my restaurant for some food. I cannot imagine who told Yi he needed an ambulance that night.
Yi needs to see a neurologist far more urgently than he ever "needed" an ambulance. I do not know who told Yi that Shifu was uncaring that night, because I was with Shifu, Yi, and Ming during the entire time. Class was stopped for nearly a half hour. It only started some 10 to 15 minutes after Shifu was sure that Yi would be okay. At that point his situation was not an emergency, and quite frankly, taking him to the emergency room would have been improper. Yi needed to see his doctor the next morning as he was advised to do.
I find it sad that Yi really knew nothing of the facts that night since he passed out, yet he has had been told erroneous things by some "unnamed student" who had no close proximity to the situation. If Yi wants to know any further details of the events that evening, all he needs to do is call me. My brother Yi needs to understand himself and his condition, and who ever fed him misinformation did not help the situation. I find it sad that Yi has blamed Shifu. Yi needs to understand himself. Yi needs to see a neurologist. Blaming someone else only delays accepting the truth. Yi has a medical condition that needs to be treated.
I was not present during Yi's meeting with Shifu; however, I did talk with Shifu afterwards. I do know that allowing Yi to train in a vest and a tee shirt was not necessary since Yi has passed out wearing his vest and tee shirt. Yi's problem was not Shifu's training methods, it was his medical condition. I find it sad that nowhere in his post does Yi refer to what he has done to seek medical attention and to understand himself. This is why Shifu told him to take time off from training; to understand himself. Blaming Shifu only delays self awareness. Blaming Shifu only obscures the need to face one's medical condition.
I know that Shifu loves Yi. I know that Shifu hopes Yi will understand himself. I know Shifu would welcome Yi back when he does. All Yi ever has to do is ask Shifu to teach him, and he will be taught.
Everything said here is the simple truth. Everything said here is with love for Yi.
Amitabha
Zhi
My name is Shi Heng Zhi (Peter Pearson Traub, Jr., Esq.), and I am a disciple of Shifu Shi Yan Ming, and a brother to Shi Heng Yi, a/k/a "Iron Cross". It is with sadness I have read Iron Cross's posts here and on Shaolinwolf.com (both are identical). I have joined this group to provide this one account of the true facts on the evening Yi (iron cross) passed out. Once I have done this, I will not return or read any response.
Since, as Yi admits, he passed out, he should hear the truth about the evening in question from the brother who was there, who comforted him, made sure he was okay, drove him in his car to my restaurant to feed him, and offered him assistance, advice, and a place to sleep that night if he could not drive the 2 hours to his home.
Heng Yi (iron cross) lost consciousness due to over exertion that night. He had a petite mal seizure. Everyone should know I have studied medicine for the past 25 years in my capacity as a medical malpractice trial attorney, as well as having direct experience with friends, family members, and clients who have seizure disorders. His seizure lasted about 10 seconds. Shifu stopped class immediately and gave us instructions on how to assist Yi. I got my towel and made a pillow for Yi. Heng Ming sat at his head with cool water to bring his temperature down. Two other students cooled him with wet towels behind his knees. Shifu instructed the rest of class to stay away so that Yi could get some air to breath. Shifu then sat by his disciple monitoring his condition for 10 to 15 minutes, before being sure Yi was okay.
It is true we wear light weight uniforms while we train. They are not made of the heavy uniforms many other martial arts disciplines use, as the temple's uniforms are made out of nylon. It is true Shifu was practicing forms privately in the back with the curtain drawn. There were only 15 - 20 of us in the front of the temple (2,000 square feet of space) where two large loft sized windows were open. It is true it was hot. It was the summer.
It is also true that Yi had passed out several times in my presence training in the summer, winter, spring and fall. Yi has passed out wearing the full light weight nylon uniform, and he has passed out wearing a vest and a tee shirt. He has passed out when it has been hot at the temple. He has passed out when it has been cold at the temple.
Yi has an underlying medical condition trigger by the rise in his body heat, regardless of the temperature outside. On every occasion that Yi passes out, he has taken all the necessary time to rest and recover. Yi is an intelligent adult who has the means to obtain whatever medical attention he needs. I do not know if Yi has ever seen a doctor following any of his fainting spells. As one who used to suffer from similar spells when I was young, I have advised Yi to seek medical attention on prior occasions as well as on the night in question.
Once Shifu was sure Yi was okay, and not in need of emergent medical attention, he walked away and told me that Yi’s condition was triggered by his body heat.
I then drove Yi in his car to my restaurant while we talked about the car's handling ability. Yi seemed to be in full control of his senses. Once at my restaurant I treated my brother to a meal so that he could recover his strength. I offered to allow Yi to stay at my home that night in the city, rather than let him drive two hours to his parent’s house out at the end of Long Island.
Yi graciously refused my offer, assuring me he was fine. He drove 2 hours home that night without incident. Yi was as correct in knowing he could drive home safely that night, as Shifu was in knowing Yi did not need an ambulance.
I told Yi during dinner that he had a petite mal seizure, and that he ought to see a neurologist. I do not know if Yi has to this date taken my advice. I do know that at no time did he need an ambulance, and if he ever thought he did, I would have been happy to take him to the hospital for treatment, rather than to my restaurant for some food. I cannot imagine who told Yi he needed an ambulance that night.
Yi needs to see a neurologist far more urgently than he ever "needed" an ambulance. I do not know who told Yi that Shifu was uncaring that night, because I was with Shifu, Yi, and Ming during the entire time. Class was stopped for nearly a half hour. It only started some 10 to 15 minutes after Shifu was sure that Yi would be okay. At that point his situation was not an emergency, and quite frankly, taking him to the emergency room would have been improper. Yi needed to see his doctor the next morning as he was advised to do.
I find it sad that Yi really knew nothing of the facts that night since he passed out, yet he has had been told erroneous things by some "unnamed student" who had no close proximity to the situation. If Yi wants to know any further details of the events that evening, all he needs to do is call me. My brother Yi needs to understand himself and his condition, and who ever fed him misinformation did not help the situation. I find it sad that Yi has blamed Shifu. Yi needs to understand himself. Yi needs to see a neurologist. Blaming someone else only delays accepting the truth. Yi has a medical condition that needs to be treated.
I was not present during Yi's meeting with Shifu; however, I did talk with Shifu afterwards. I do know that allowing Yi to train in a vest and a tee shirt was not necessary since Yi has passed out wearing his vest and tee shirt. Yi's problem was not Shifu's training methods, it was his medical condition. I find it sad that nowhere in his post does Yi refer to what he has done to seek medical attention and to understand himself. This is why Shifu told him to take time off from training; to understand himself. Blaming Shifu only delays self awareness. Blaming Shifu only obscures the need to face one's medical condition.
I know that Shifu loves Yi. I know that Shifu hopes Yi will understand himself. I know Shifu would welcome Yi back when he does. All Yi ever has to do is ask Shifu to teach him, and he will be taught.
Everything said here is the simple truth. Everything said here is with love for Yi.
Amitabha
Zhi
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