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**Inevitable** · 02-28-2006, 02:10 AM

damn didn't think it was that in depth, gonna have to re-evaluate some monks

**doc** · 03-02-2006, 11:19 AM

For those of you who do not know what a su jia di tz is, you can find a little doc diatribe in the Shaolin FAQ section of the site.

This is actually an interesting commentary, on the current political situation in Shaolin.

Of interest also, would be one of my journal entries, from the 1999 era... Just not sure where in the site that would be now (as the Journals section has evolved quite a bit over the years)

**Firbolg** · 03-02-2006, 02:01 PM

"Su jia di zi means those people who either previously stayed at the temple as monks or never were monks but they had monk masters.."

So.. its someone who used to be a monk or didn't used to be a monk.. glad thats cleared that up!

In De Cheng's case he was a monk at the temple but no longer is (at the temple) which makes him now a su jia di tz? Which could basically apply to pretty much all the "real" shaolin monks teaching around the world these days?

Is it an automatic thing when a monk leaves the temple for whatever reason or does the venerable abbot in his infinite wisdom decide arbitrarily who is no longer entitled to the "shaolin monk" title?

**tetsumaru** · 03-02-2006, 05:37 PM

a title is just words...for me currently shaolin is nothing but a profitable trademark...the proof is in the pudding<---I still don't get that...

**pazman** · 03-03-2006, 01:13 AM

Anyone who has ever trained with Shi Decheng will know he is much more concerned about good, honest training than with image and bullshit master worship. You can see it in his kung fu, you can see it in the way he relates to his students...He's simply a joy to train under. Unfortunately, I think this stands in direct opposition with a lot of political junk at Shaolin...all face and no substance.

**Inevitable** · 03-03-2006, 02:00 AM

there are only a rare few that are trully concerned with training, and not image

i've lately been hearing about a bad side to shi xing hong, and i'm starting to lose respect for him

**doc** · 03-03-2006, 06:59 AM

As to Xing Hong, well, search the site and the forum here. I think you'll find some interesting things.

Been saying that a lot lately about these guys.

**onesp1ng** · 03-03-2006, 09:44 AM

a shaolin monk that's interested in his image? no, it's not possible.

**Inevitable** · 03-04-2006, 04:26 AM

damn i'm not surprised at all with what you were writing about shi xing hong, complete difference from when i first met up with him

**doc** · 03-04-2006, 11:11 AM

Well, people change, and his is an interesting story. Especially the part about the PBS special we did, and his current, eh, movements.

**Inevitable** · 03-05-2006, 06:22 AM

yeah know what you mean...

its such a shame

**onesp1ng** · 03-05-2006, 05:41 PM

can Doc or the blond boy elaborate some?

**doc** · 03-05-2006, 07:34 PM

Well, time for a new thread? And, how much shall we elaborate on? XH is a good guy, I've known him now for what, eight, nine years? Watched him evolve and mature, as I have some of these other guys.