Mortal finally my high level kungfu

[Maestro]

i dont like that karate gymnastic shit that "daniel" whatever guy was doing..i watched the guy in the yellow to but seen a million of those demos..always the same.

i respect their acrobactic abilitys but only to a point. its impressive but in the end, i dont want to train like them i dont like karate and i dont like flying lolo

in the end mortal what u need to try and understand about hung style, the moves arent stiff, they make look stiff but they arent, the "crisp" movements are done to send energy to the end of the weapon, not just swinging it around like the wushu people. this is another problem, wushu people love swinging weapons around etc but they do not understand how to link the energy to the weapon, sure if it came down to a fight with weapons u could take whatever side u wish but, in the end its like comparing a little kid to an adult. a kid fights an adult and tries to punch the adult the adult can easily brush the arm away, on the flip side if the adult punches and the kid tries to move the arm there is no hope for the little sob. not to mention with hung style demos if you watch them and are impressed with whatever speed u think u saw, try and imagine that speed about 20x faster in a real fight

the thing about hung style is it can be played many different ways but in the end it is very famous for devastating relentless attacks. traditionally all the moves are like iron but they are quick as lightinging. you could block us but you wont move the bridge, and if you do block you are touching iron. also, you better be faster then a shaolin monk because the training methods of hung style, when talking about master level..they are just to fast, and the attacks are relentless and every hit is a KO. the reason in hung style they place so much emphasise on structure and slow dynamic tension is make every hit a KO, so when u fight and your so fast you cant even see us, and your attacks never stop even in retreat, it is like fighting a tiger unleashed from a cage

[tetsumaru]

I agree maestro. flips and trickz are great but I think it is part of the reason MA in the US and elsewhere suck so much. People watch too many movies for real. I am still waiting to meet someone who has real hung gar skills. There is the one fat white guy that teaches near me but its a joke. So forgive me if I am less than enthusiastic when you mention your Hung gar training. However that video of the double broadsword was pretty interesting. It is very similar to a Shaolin double Broadsword that some of my kung-fu brethren are learning right now.

In regards to the "stiffness" of Hung gar (which is tiger / crane, right?), I am learning a Northern Shaolin Tiger form that has the power of southern but the kicks and absurdly impossible moves of northern. I will try to post a video of it once it is finished.

[Maestro]

for one u gotta stop calling hung kuen the tiger and crane, uve done that repeatedly it gets on my nerves sometimes..either way, tiger and crane is 1 form in hung style, in actuality hung style teaches tiger,crane,leopard,dragon,snake

personally i could careless what impresses people or not, ive seen countless shit head tae kwon do peeps but then i did learn my kicks from my friend who is tkd BB and he could beat most of these northern shaolin guys anyday. also seen alot of shit karate but we not gonna talk about mas oyama now are we..

btw hung style has most if it not all kicks of other systems, just depends what u want to emphises..personally i like to emphasise spear hand, round house kick, cup choy, charp choy and uppercut technique. but, those are just the ones i drill alot..the best thing about hung style is the mastery of the body that is achieved. like my seniors say, if u can master the body no matter what style u train u should be able to execute any technique with full speed power and technique, not to mention u should be able to teach yourself about 80-90% of most any system after you master yourself. thats hung style

[LeiYunFat]

I haven't "mastered" fook fu keun, but I'll try to get a vid up or something. Sometime in the next few years...

[flow]

yea to be honnest there are 3 persons that i would really like to see perform here:

Mortal
Maestro
Plumflower

Why?Because they seem to be particulary interessant. I was wondering if any of you would have the courage to send a real video of them performing so we can all see. It would be awesome!

Come one guys, do it! You must have some videos sleeping or a friend willing to help you for taking one??

[plumflower_pm]

I have some fight videos but they're over 10megs and need to be downsampled. I'll see what I can do.

[Maestro]

i would have showed dao a thing or two when he visited me, hes the only russbo guy ive ever met..but unfortunately he came around new years i believe, we met i think twice and both times we just got high, we were supposed to meet at other times but i was getting drunk and messed up alot at that time, since this last summer i quick tokeing chronic cause for some reason i started haveing panic attacks and shit..i cant explain it but panic attacks suck..i thought i was gonna die

anyway, i have no videos nor do i wanna be on the internet..maybe if i meet one of you some day you can praise me on the forum and sing the song of maestros greatness lolo

[Maestro]

oh yea , btw i remember dao showed me a tiny bit of his drunken, said he messed with nunchucks to..unfortunatley for him i didnt get to teach him true skill with the nunchucks..because i will but bruce lee to shame!! lolo, seriously though i love nunchucks i can whip them around me i look like a tornado of sticks, only move i havent mastered(or practiced after i broke my nunchucks) is the air toss.

[Maestro]

also, yknow, there should be alot more footage of me considering the number of people who supposedly have wanted to sincerly fight me over the years. the last time i was "challenged" was on shaolin wolf before i took off for china..but either way the guy asked for my information, i told him the state i live in the town how to get here, the closest air ports and a location to meet..he discontinued email like just about everyone else who talks shit. i remember one guy made up a story about him coming here and me not showing up even though he sent me like 1 email and then came back at i think here or shaolin wolf and started saying shit about oh i pussed out.

i really wish some of those cock suckers would have had the balls to face me anyway, because they talk so much shit and i never get to fight anyone, i did more fighting in hong kong(daily) then i have in the last 2 years. and its so fun knowing what your capable of against someone whos fighting you..not to mention someone superior to you.

anyway the real reason im posting 3 times in a row is cause i cant go to sleep and im very sore from last nights training and i have to go pick up my brother at the casino in a couple hours..

anyway..footage, well there should be some, whole point of this post..but unfortunately the internet is full of pussies as internet warriors who like to talk about being nhb warriors and all this shit. in the end they are bitch.

[Maestro]

btw, since this thread seems to get activity recently from most everyone, why doesnt everyone post their training regime? ill start out first and post my weekly schedule..it changes once and awhile but for the most part stays the same;

i also practice iron body but not gonna put all that in here my schedule with that varies but i do arms and legs everyday. i also stretch and do alot of hard qi gong besides the small golden bell.

sunday-60 pushups, transtions(special drill i have not just stances) spring cord straight punch/palm/spear hand, single tiger claw 100 rep, black tiger claw 100 rep

monday-crunches 2 sets(of 200) transitions, cup choy/pow choy 200 reps, gung gi 3 x

tuesday-100 pushups, transitions, spring cord fist/palm/spear hand, moi fah 3 x

wednesday-crunches 2 sets, transitions, sing tiger claw and black tiger claw 100 rep, moi fah 3x

thursday-60 pushups, front snap/inner-outter crescents (kung fu style not TKD)/round house 100 rep each leg, transitions

friday- 100 pushups, cup choy/pow choy 200 rep, transitions

saturday- crunches 2 sets, gung gi 6x, transitions, moi fah 3x

"yea these bitches bite me, haters wanna fight me, yea these niggas mad cause i came up over night b" that describes my life on the forums lolo "so you better do the right thing like spike lee.." JD song.. btw

[mortal]

You posted so much I don't know where to start. You sound like you know what your talking about that is why I feel the need to convince you that wushu is a godd thing. You are not giving wushu athletes enough credit. Just because it isn't focused on fighting you dismiss it.

Wushu players shoot there energy into their weapons better then most people. I for one have a good feel for it. I once had a sword blade fly off after I stabbed with it. It came right out of the handle. We are NOT just swinging it around. Also wushu players have the cleanest stances and transitions. You are focusing on the flips because they make everything else look soo easy. Did you see his energy level? It was insane. I understand about power generation. But you don't have to be stiff in your movements. It isn't the same as stopping in a stance. Its about how they move.


I have been on the access channel in Ney york city since 2002. My wingchun teacher has a show. I am running right now. So if anyone in New york has it I would love it if you could tape it.

I am going to be doing long fist at a demo for chinese newyears. It will be recorded and I'll try and figure out how to post it. Everytime I compete next year it will be taped. I will also try to put some wingchun and baji on the tape as well.

[flow]

Hey! Don't get upset bro but you have to admit that for now Plum, one of the rare female of the forum, is the only one who responds cleary and positively to my question. I want to see videos just to have an idea of what u do, not to laugh and criticise. I myself don't know kung Fu but should be able to send a video of a fight in February March, Amateur Muay Thai in London.

I just thought that it is more interesting to send ur own videos than samples of other ones. We can discuss about it and know each other better/ even though it's just an internet forum, why not?

I won't spend time writing my training regime because i'd rather spend this time for, indeed, training. And it always change, all i can say is i train 5/6 days a week, running, push ups (all kinds), crunches, leg raises with ankle weights, stretches, shadow boxing and all the shit...3 times a week to my club where i endure hell each time lol.

Come on, vids, vids vids!!! That replaces all the ***** talk and bullshit, and it's fun. Anyone!
Maestro, why fight? Life is not a movie, you don't play with fire ithout burning urself. You seem to have a strong ego this is not always a quality.

[flow]

i didn't see...Mortal is hot for vids too, that is ****in nice! Go on!

[mortal]

My work out looks like this.

Monday
Wushu 2 hours. Heavy stretching push ups, basics, forms, Situps back ups leg lifts.

Tuesday
Bike 15 miles, stretch

Wednesday
Wushu 2 hours. Heavy stretching push ups, basics, forms, Situps back ups leg lifts

Thursday
Bike 15 miles, stretch

Friday
Rest Sometimes play handball.

Saturday
Wushu 2 hours. Heavy stretching push ups, basics, forms, Situps back ups leg lifts.

Sunday
2 times a month I will ride 40 miles up to the bronx and back to Brooklyn. The other days I rest.

[mortal]

Oh and I'm not upset. Did I come off that way?